to not want a 'title'

[GirlWithTheMouseyHair]

I'm married but hate it on forms or anything really (especially professionally) where I have to state a title. I don't like the way I'm judged and perceived when I say Mrs (misogynistic industry and I'm quite young) but I'm not a Miss and again feel judged and decide upon when I put Ms.

Does anyone else get like this? Why can't the title field be optional?

Sorry this isn't a more interesting thread than the title suggests - I ought to be contemplating a damehood really!

...in that way...

That might well be one situation in which a woman might use Ms (though lots of women continue using Mrs after divorce as well) but certainly not the only one. The whole point is that it doesn't convey any information about the woman's marital status.

I have come across that assumption before though (Ms = divorced) and do wonder where it comes from.

I think it has been linked to already but here is the Wikipedia link again.

As Ephiny says (more diplomatically than me): a divorced woman might be one scenario in which a woman chooses to use Ms - but by no means the only one.

"I do find it sad (sorry) when women say they are proud to be mrs or feel they get more respect as mrs. I can't believe they are ok with their marital status defining them in a way it doesn't define their dh's. Also, I guess that means they think less of their single friends and family members?"

I disagree. I have been a Mrs for nearly 30 years and am happy with the fact. I don't feel it defines me and I don't feel "owned". As I said in my earlier post I don't feel strongly about titles for it to be a big deal to me. When we got married it simply didn't occur to me to not change my name to Mrs OH's name. From a practical point of view I do find it easier that OH, DD and I all have the same surname, although I think the French way sounds pretty sensible to me.

I hate there not being a title option I have a unisex name that in the UK is more commonly used for boys and OMG do I lOATHE beign called MR

There's a difference between being happy with something (I'm happy with my wallpaper), and being proud of it.

And if someone shows me greater or lesser respect based on my wallpaper I'd be very indeed.

....but if there isn't a title option, then they are not using titles and therefore they wouldn't call you Mr

... speaking as someone who not only has a unisex (shortened) name, but also has a German surname so that the combination, if I were a German, would definitely be a male, so do no mind if I get mistakenly written to as Mr.

Bunbaker - you weren't the kind of person I was referring to. There were a few people on this thread earlier who said they chose Mrs because they were "proud" to be married or felt that they got "treated with more respect". It was people who chose Mrs for those reasons specifically that I feel sad about. Others who use Mrs for a raft of other reasons I feel are just exercising their choice.

Agree BlingLoving, and actually I'm not celebratory about websites not offering Miss (unless they have only one female option, which would be the neutral Ms). But I'm incandescent if they don't offer Ms.

Actually, this discussion has prompted me to choose Mr, if I'm denied Ms. At least it's obviously wrong and won't lead to false assumptions. (Or only to very amusing ones.)

My gay friend whose partner just died keeps being addressed as Mrs by the various agencies dealing with the death. He find it sort of funny, sort of upsetting depending on his state of humour that day.

I didn't have a problem being a Miss before I was married and a Mrs after. It isn't an issue as far as I'm concerned. If the DH ever gets a gong shan't have problem with being Lady DH either