Benefit Bashing

[Kendodd]

A mum I know and her DP with two children live in a two bed (nice) HA house. Neither of them work and have not worked for as long as I've known them (two years) I don't know about before then. She has told me they are trying for another baby, not to get a bigger house or anything, just because they want four children eventally. I would love four children but can't have that many because for one we just can't afford four.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off that they can have more children and I can't or am I just a jealous benefit basher.

ps They are both nice and don't have a flatscreen TV.

*heat of the moment even

Anything before a 'but' doesn't count.

You can say that chippin. I still think it was nasty.

Well, she can speak for herself! lol

And we are working poor also, we have something in common!

And I hate getting into fights to be honest. Debate is one thing, bitchfights anotherIf I say something I shouldn't have it lays heavily on my concience (too late to spell correctly) and upsets me. Maybe it shouldn't and I'm being overly sensitive but it does.

and all was well that ended well...

Anyone who thinks (and there are some on here who do think this) that EVERYONE on benefits is a scrounger can kiss my overly pale, flabby arse.

I mean it, I'll get it out here and now if necessary

I'm trying to invest in my kids' future. In the hope that one day they WILL be taxpayers and that I can be again some day (I was for a good 10 years pre kids as was DH by the way). It's by no means guaranteed but I'm trying.

You never know when life will bite you on the arse. I sincerely mean that. Any of you could become disabled tomorrow and you'll be screwed, as with this current government's agenda the disabled and the vulnerable ARE being swept up in their benefits agenda.

An unpalatable truth, but a truth none the same. Such a shame there's not more noise being made about this, though God knows I've tried.

blame the overuse of the word agenda on my good friend Red Square by the way... apologies

A 37 year old who repeatedly uses the word 'dude' is just the wrong side of creepy.

And it just slipped down a little creepier.

How many do you have babybellasmummy? My kids get a generic because if they're not called by each other's name it's my sister's name, my parents add my name into the list! I'm glad there's no pets and I only have girls!

thankyou babybella i thought exactly the same! TSC you call your dc dude because you can't be arsed to remember their names??? that's horrific!

and glittterknickaz that is crux of problem, MillyR argued as much, people too often cannot see how easily their own circumstances could become very wretched by no fault of their own/ a series of unfortunate events

how many steps away are any of us from total financial ruin? how many people become disabled each year?

there should always be a safety net for the most vulnerable and for everyone else equal opportunity should be promoted.

most rich people i ever talk to would be perfectly happy if they could see their taxes being spent wisely

dude! i'm thirty eight

Sorry I don't agree, I get mixed up with my children's names all the time and even look at them and think "who are you?"

I do think only one person read my big post.

ConfuddleDOTcom I thought you post was powerful. And I will repeat in saying that I thought it demonstrated that the serious discriminatory attitude that some posters display to "benefit scroungers" their term is one which can clearly lead to abuse of disabled people.

Here is an interesting little poll

Six out of 10 British people taking part in the poll said they thought it was wrong for UK businesses to ?employ controversial but legal means of reducing their tax contribution at a time of economic uncertainty?. Only 15% of respondents agreed it was acceptable to use legal tax avoidance techniques.?

I mean why don't the media shed more light on tax avoidance rather than the focus on exceptional benefit exampled. I wonder what has been lost to the economy from tax avoidance as opposed to what has been lost from the economy due to benefits fraud?

Benefit fraud versus tax evasion

Well here we go folks, read for yourself and do the maths. That is an awful lot of dough.

The tax gap from evasion is, give or take the odd billion or so, £70 billion at present.

The total tax gap is about £120 billion.

Benefit fraud and official error combined cost £3.1 billion last year.

TSC - Just as well you don't have ID twins :o

My mum does and they quite often get called, 'you there in the hoodie' or 'oi twin' if one of them gets up in the middle of the night she has too ask who it is because she can't tell sometimes!

Hell I only have one child and for some unknown reason go through bouts of shoutuing my brother/DP/dogs name before I get to DS' :o