Benefit Bashing

[Kendodd]

A mum I know and her DP with two children live in a two bed (nice) HA house. Neither of them work and have not worked for as long as I've known them (two years) I don't know about before then. She has told me they are trying for another baby, not to get a bigger house or anything, just because they want four children eventally. I would love four children but can't have that many because for one we just can't afford four.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off that they can have more children and I can't or am I just a jealous benefit basher.

ps They are both nice and don't have a flatscreen TV.

Wook- I worked before I had children. Then, I became a parent, and now my partner, not the state, supports us. So it's really a non-issue in my book. The taxpayer isn't paying for me and my children.

I did not say it was an unnatractive photo, I said it was an unusual photo for a parenting website.

blame the baby bump, it threw your centre of gravity off!!

i blame the panic in climbing off him after seeing my dad's car coming up teh drive!

Hey, ladies - stop the bitch-fest about shoes and hair and cleavage etc or us chaps will leave you to it!

onagar - I work for myself so I'll post on here when I damn well like, thanks. Benefits need to be pruned back to the bare minimum for the poorest that need them - bribing middle class people with their own money is the lowest politics.

Sorry but as you said earlier you receive tax credits so the tax payer is helping to support you and as from 2013 tax credits are going to come under the universal credit umbrella so any sahm has to make herself available for work as soon as the youngest child reaches 5,the same that applies to a lone parent.

Well, starlight you are fortunate to have someonewhofundsyourlifestylechoice a partner who supports you. I suspect some of the parents who you would deny state support to were in your position before their partners fucked off, became ill or died, leaving them alone and temporarily reliant on the support of the state. There but for the grace of god and all that....

Jen- I wasn't referring to you with the stick to beat me with comment, I was talking to TSC.

Who, incidentally, still can't give me a reason...

We'll have to reserve judgment on whether the universal benefit and the other changes will have any effect. Keeping 35p in every pound earned is not a massive incentive - that's £2.10 an hour better off to work if you're on the minimum wage. I can't see that making people rush off to get jobs as cleaners even if those jobs were to be had.

We need my preferred scheme of £200 a week for everyone over 18 in work or out with no housing benefit on top and if you cannot afford to rent on that then you'll have to move in with relatives or take hostel beds or team up with other people on the £200 a week.

Then increase the single person allowance ot £10k.

Then do many more deeper cuts and then lower tax rates.

Wook- Please, read back my previous posts. Not once have I said that single mothers, disabled people and carers should be denyed ANYTHING. I am talking about a nuclear family whose adults are mentally and physically capable of work, but actively choose not to.

And no, I'm not talking about the OP now, I'm talking about the families out there that do this and take the piss out of everyone. They are the reason that genuine claimers get tarred with the same brush.

ok, i'll go for it, i can practically see your left nipple and you look like you are dressed to go out fighting clubbing.

No you can't. I'll assume that you're just jealous of a girl young enough to be your daughter, because that what it smacks of to me.

You can assume about me, and I'll assume about you. Fair's fair, right?

LMAO HARD FACED! HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks love! English rose- I'll assume that to mean fat and pale then. Congrats!

You think I'm a poledancer. Good for you. I think you're a jealous old woman. Good for me. It's really getting us nowhere. Have fun.

why is it that you think everyone should be jealous of you starlight? is tehre something in the profile that we haven't seen that we should be jealous of?

And I'm hardly 'hard faced'. Fresh faced, yes, Hard-faced, no. My features are soft thanks very much !

I think it's just pathetic a woman of your age has to stoop so low. It's sad.

Ahhhh fuck this.

Jealous much was aimed at TSC.

See ya, I've got things to do in RL.

SP, it's a gorgeous picture. You look lovely, better than the fat as butter madly dressed usual British mother, certainly. They need to eat a lot less. Far too many of them are over weight.

But Starlight all the statistics show that firstly 'these people' (by which I think you mean the long term unemployed? claimants who have never worked? I'm not entirely sure who...) are a small minority of claimants, secondly that the amount paid to 'these people' (whoever they are) just doesn't compare to the cost to the UK economy of tax evasion, bank bailouts etc etc and finally that as soon as people begin this 'benefit bashing' it lumps everyone in together: who is 'genuine' and who is not? Who is a 'scrounger' and who isn't? It's provocative.
Anyway, since you don't pay tax at the moment (although presumably you might use certain services....) why bother caring? I do pay tax, and I don't mind, so you needn't bother getting upset about people claiming benefits on my account

Okay, this has reverted to proving the adage that the definition of a 'misogynist' is a man who hates women almost as much as a woman does.

I'm off to bed

so you're all still like the proverbial dog fighting over scraps chucked to you from the masters' table are you? (in this sense we really are in it together). there really is no hope then.

and targeting one misguided poster for her profile pics is silly. nail her on her illogical arguments instead.

georgeorwell - this is what the Left does...it far prefers attacking the person rather than the argument.

Cheers Xenia!

And georgeorwell (love the name btw, one my favourite authors), yes, can we stop talking about my fucking looks! It's irrelevant!