"To think people with mental health issues should be locked up?"

[SnapFish]

I don't get why they closed the asylums, now we have all these unstable lunatics wandering round the streets. There is one living near me so I can't even let the dc play out in case she kidnaps them and locks them in her cellar. I think they should start some kind of loony register to keep tabs on them and then they can notify residents when one moved into the area!

Oh SnapFish, I'm sorry you had to listen to such bullshit.

I think you should be very heartened by the angry responses you got at first. The angrier the better, they show the attitude people should have towards ignorance.

I think lots of people don't think of depression as a MH issue iykwim. I had PND, XH had depression and a psychotic episode, a friend has severe MH problems. The things people have said to me about friend are diabolical. I always mention my MH past and they seem to think it's not the same. I think they'd have me locked up if they'd seen me at my worst, they talk shite!

Seriously though - haven't read the thread yet, but even the the OP was clearly on some kind of wind-up, I've been thinking alot about this lately and I think we would benefit from a return to old fashioned asylums for some people suffereing from mental illness. Think about what the word 'asylum' means. Some people are not equipped to manage outside alone, and it would be kinder for them, and less stressful for the people around them, if they were in full-time care. I think Care in the Community as a concept was well intentioned but flawed in many respects.

Totally agree fellatio, 'care in the community' often means leave them to cope alone, inevitably they or their family end up suffering in some way, my sister knows of a guy who has paranoid scyhzophrenia (sp?) lovely guy, but because of his issues he is inevitably shunned or gets abuse off strangers, it's very sad. He doesn't really have any meaning to his life, he's still quite young (mid 30's)

Also very sad for his 76 year old mother who's caring for him but that's a whole new thread

Well i'll be sure to bring up the lovely old asylum idea when i see my schitzophrenic brother next week.

That'll be the one about to take his driving test and studying Psychology at university who takes about 5mg a day to stop him running around the streets waving a machete.

Oh and the OP is referring to what she overheard not her thoughts - at least that's how i read it.

Fellatio - there was a documentary on recently about the old asylums. Women who had children out of wedlock were put in them. One woman who suffered from panic attacks lived in one for thirty years.

And in the MAJORITY of cases they are not left alone. They have CPNs.

I do wish people would put the Daily Mail down.

Bringback that some I put in inverted commas was there for a reason. Your borhter may be perfectly capable of managing life in the big wide world but many mentally ill people are not. Atomatic blanket defensiveness is no help to anyone.

sorry - I meant italics, not inverted commas.

I think FN was saying that some people need actual proper "caring" rather than being left to struggle alone. Not people who can function quite well with meds.

Nobody mentioned asylums.....

It's a personal fear of mine, I have two children with asd, chances are MH will be on the horizon in the next few years, do I want them being 'cared for in the community with a visit off a mental health nurse once a month if luckey ?? No I don't ( fil is bipolar, that's what he gets)

I worry about what will happen when i'm not here, I see homeless people with obvious MH problems and fear dd being in that same place one day, I would love for them to be cared for in a residential village type setting, but that's seen as old fashioned these days, care in the community is all well and good, but I see a lot more chucked to the wolves than caring going on, especially with people who have severe MH problems and learning difficulties

They do do residential housing for certain types of MH issues. Like you get old peoples homes, you also get mental illness homes. A lot of councils do run them, it is just finding them.

Our town has one, it's fab. Really lovely and as far removed from an 'asylum' as you can get, the clients have their own workshops building wooden garden furniture, a garden nursery, shop, etc, they're very involved in the community and attend college, outside events etc in fact we go to the summer fate the residents organise each year

But it only has 23 beds, and is for people with severe learning difficulties, fabulous facility tho

I suffer from 'issues' with deoression myself and manage by taking each day at a time, like the vast majority of people do, but i'm fully aware some people aren't able to do that and from what i've seen simply aren't being 'cared'for.

It's very sad, and for me very worrying

And Snapfish your friends are arseholes, chances are one of them could go through the same thing one day

did u know that everybody has sum sortof "mental health issue"..................and u my friend have a serious one

mental health is a spectrum of various illness.vast majority of mental illness is managed safely in community by GP, and cmht and psychiatrists. within mental illness there is different range and impact,different for each individual

you know the biggest difficulty people experiencing mental illness experience?

it is stigma
people like you
offensive terms like loony and lunatics

and that stigma leads to negative stereotypical representations and can prevent individuals presenting or heighten feelings of despair and shame

op if you needed support after stigma yourself just say so.your op does you no favours

unfortunately stigma is crushing and cruel,and you need to find safe pals and dependable people to support you

I have Binfullofmagotts if you read my other posts

SNAPFISH- i work in a mental health hospital and just because they have issues they do not want to kidnap children

I think attitudes towards mental illness has improved, but there's still a fear of it - at the end of the day it's much harder to understand than say, someone with a broken leg lol, I had depression before and those that knew about it I think found it hard to understand or know what to say.

I would have stood up to them, but that's because I'm ok now - you probably did right to walk away as you don't need that crap. When you feel stronger, tell them to fuck off!! xx

Loolah read back into the thread.

I think the reason people fear it is because it can happen to anybody, they can't handle it and don't want to understand it

One of my dearest and best friends in all the world was admitted to a psychiatric hospital after taking an overdose. I stayed at her home and looked after her children for a while with another friend. We never, ever blamed her for what was happening. All we ever wanted was for her to get better.

I think if you really know someone and comment, fair dues but if it is someone in the playground making assumptions - well up their arses.

Look after yourself.

^ Add message | Report | Message poster scottishmummy Fri 04-Feb-11 21:28:48
mental health is a spectrum of various illness.vast majority of mental illness is managed safely in community by GP, and cmht and psychiatrists. within mental illness there is different range and impact,different for each individual

you know the biggest difficulty people experiencing mental illness experience?

it is stigma
people like you
offensive terms like loony and lunatics

and that stigma leads to negative stereotypical representations and can prevent individuals presenting or heighten feelings of despair and shame^

That post simply puts it how it is.

I work as a support worker within mental health services. Everyday I have to help people with poor or enduring mental health problems live with the stigma and social exclusion that accompanies them almost everywhere they go , the guilt they feel when it impacts on their loved ones too.
So reading an ignorant and disgusting OP like that has made me so fucking angry.

1 in 4 people will experience poor mental health at some point in their lives.

The media portrays people with schizophrenia as mad axe men on murdering sprees.
A person suffering with schizophrenia is 95% more likely to harm/kill them selves than another person. The other 5% is far less than the percentage of "normal" people who murder and commit the most horrific crimes with no "mental health issues"

I am absolutely amazed and shocked and quite frankly find it disturbing that any rational thinking person can be so bigoted and believe that a post like this would get a sympathetic response.

The OP can only feel reassured that not one person so far has agreed with the Hags from Hell at the school gate.