AIBU to be annoyed with mothers who can't be bothered to work?

[HellaH]

Went to a baby playgroup the other day and met yet another mother who has handed in her notice just because she has had a baby.

Thanks a lot! Now when I will go looking for a job employers will think that I too will hand in my notice if I fall pregnant again and will probably take on a man instead of me.

Can't wait for men to get more parental leave, maybe it will equal things out a bit!

And surely with the flexible working hours law and such a woman CAN go back to work without silly excuses.

YABU..
If i went to work who would supervise the staff??.
And it's sooo hard to find good staff these days.

I mean prepare menus with cook.
Organise the flowers with housekeeper.
Plan the garden with the gardener.
Etc,etc,etc
Never mind getting Nanny to pick up after the DCs.

Have worked in the employment market for over 20 years and things have changed quite a bit but in the last 10 years or so I have probably come across a maximum of 2 clients who have made the assumption that a woman of child bearing age will leave and so have prefered to take on a man.

So yes,

I work because I have to, not because I want to and if we could afford to live on one salary I would be out that door like a shot and enjoy having time to take dcs to the park or the library during the week and do my supermarket shopping at quiet times and even watch a bit of children's telly with them when it's starting to get dark and time to close the curtains, instead of pushing my way through rush hour crowds and standing at bus stop in the freezing cold.

Can't be bothered to read this tbh but will happily give
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I do some work outside the home for which I get paid. I do some housework. I volunteer in both my children's classes at school.

Have another to munch on.

The Hub bloke isn't as good as naked Gino

knob

And another thing ...

I find it inexplicable that it is still acceptable in our culture to blame women for sexism.

I mean, really.

One of the things about women is that we are, as a group, recognised as able to reproduce. No, not all of us do. No, not all of us take on parenting. But the fact we may is written deep into cultural accounts of our biological sex.

The fact that this is then twisted about, into a weird , contorted way of punishing us, and discriminating against us, for being women, not men, is bizarre.

OP, you have swallowed false consciousness whole.

God this thread has descended into dark places that no other WOHM/SAHM debate has ever ventured.

A naked Eammon Holmes

bikermol I do however take great exception to your post as firstly, I know of no parent who 'dumps' their child anywhere. This is an unecessary and emotive use of vocabulary. and secondly, 60 hours in childcare a week is pretty unusual, IME 50 hours is the normal maximum.

That fact that OP deserves a large and jammy is unanimous but don't be rude.

i agree chickens. why were they doing it? just saw silvan (sp?)

Oh ffs! I have had enough of the SAHM bashing on MN, it's begun to get genuinely upsetting. Jesus Christ, child rearing really has zero status in this society doesn't it?

I'm off MN until this ridiculous phase ends.

I'd say your lack of intelligence would count against you more than your gender when applying for a job. Good luck though love!

We really need to start a Mumsnet Campaign against the threat of Eammon taking his clothes off.

I know. If he even takes off his tie, I am putting on BBC News 24.

HellaH, presumably when the woman gave in her notice she freed up a vacancy for someone else. That's a good thing, no?

Go on OP, have a , you know that it'll help.

Off to pick up ds1 from Nursery. Ds2 is at his Grandma's and I've hoovered the stairs and browsed MN. Life's a drag !

Ah I think the op is struggling to find anyone to employ her and rather than accept it's because she isn't good enough she is blaming mothers

redrollers

No, I mean income support primarily. I realise this might be a contraversial view to have but I think if a woman chooses to have a baby, then she should try her very best to support that baby financially and not expect to live entirely off the tax payer.

So, even if she worked part -time (after SMP ran out), she could still claim WFTC, CTC and possibly other benefits (as well as of course keeping her universal child benefit). Once her child turns 3, he/she would also be eligible for free part time nursery education - so childcare costs would be reduced.

I think the welfare system should support those who really can't work. It should also support those who can work to do so - and make work a viable option (rather than what we tend to see now, where many single parents are better off living exclusively on benefits).

I am a single mum (my exH left me for OW when DS was 4 months). I returned to work when DS was 7 months because I couldn't afford not to. I am very fortunate to have a good, flexible and well-paid job - I don't underestimate how hard it must be for others.

Having done that though, and worked hard to buy a place of my own for me and DS and not claimed any benefit (other than CB and childcare vouchers), it does rile me a bit that some people feel entitled to live off the state. Like I said, I have no problem with my taxes helping to support people to get back on their feet. But I do have a problem with some people who do not help to support themselves and their families.

Sorry - that was long but clear I hope!

It is nothing to do with you if a woman chooses to bring her child up herself

So who exactly is bringing up the children of working mothers?

YABU btw OP.

Ladies, don't be riled by the OP or feel the need to justify yourselves. Join in with the very important discussion re naked male tv presenters, and the quality thereof.

HellaH - by choosing not to work, because we can manage on my DP's wages, I am freeing up a job that someone else might need more. I'm doing you a favour.

OP-perhaps you can apply fir the job she has given up?

Does Ruth wear a hair-piece?

It's looking very bouffant today

OP is just sitting back warming her hands on the flames, isn't she?

(and I am refusing to get drawn into a discussion about naked daytime TV presenters unless Richard Armitage is allowed to present This Morning)

Can we have naked politicians please?

John Prescott anyone?