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To think that resources are being wasted on underserving scrubbers

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rezbites · 20/01/2011 10:12

It makes me very angry to think that deserving parents, like Riven and her partner, are being denied the help the help they so clearly need when there are others in our society who are bleeding the system dry and giving nothing back. Please let me explain what I mean.

Where I live (and in other parts of the country too, I'm sure) there is a certain "underclass" of young women - you know the ones I mean - little scrubbers who clearly model themselves on Vicky Pollard - who are provided with everything by the State. They have not suffered abandonment, divorce or bereavement. They have not been made redundant or struggled to find a job - they have never tried to get one. They have chosen to become single mothers, straightout of school in many cases, so that they qualify for social housing and benefits to live on, claiming that they cannot work because they have a child. They think the world owes them a living and it is their right to claim all these things. I do not mean to suggest that they are typical of single parents or council tenants generally because I know that they are not. They are a feckless, but very visible, minority.

Why should the country waste resouces on these selfish, irresponsible deadbeats who have chosen that lifestyle, at the expense of people in genuine need of help - the disabled, the vulnerable and those who through no fault of their own have ended up in very difficult circumstances?

OP posts:
JulesJules · 20/01/2011 14:01

God, I must get my eyes checked. Keep reading workhouse as "workhorse".

Although, do you know, I think that could work too.

Love the hooves/typing interface

DameShirleyKnot · 20/01/2011 14:02

It's PC GONE MAD all this not despising people who have shitty lives.

PC GONE MAD.

ILikeMilk · 20/01/2011 14:02

Ok bupcakes, are you trying to honestly say that pregnancy as a tool to get a council house does not exist in the UK?

StuffingGoldBrass · 20/01/2011 14:02

Why would anyone think that being a single parent on benefits is a good lifestyle? It means counting the pennies every week, living in a damp flat in a rough area, no holidays, not many new clothes, dreading each growth spurt in the DC that means you'll have to spend part of that week's food bill on new shoes or whatever..
And if you do have the notorious Underserving Underclass model of flat-screen TV, it's only going to be there temporarily till Brighthouse come and kick your door in and reclaim it... or if by some miracle they don't by the time you've paid it off at £2 a week it will have cost you twice as much as a better one from COmet would have.

bupcakesandcunting · 20/01/2011 14:05

"Ok bupcakes, are you trying to honestly say that pregnancy as a tool to get a council house does not exist in the UK?"

Yes. You do NOT immediately get shufted into a plish cahncil hahse just because your ned boyfriend got you knocked up. You will more than likely be put into a hostel for a number of months first.

Do you get your ideas from Jeremy Kyle. Are you married to Jeremy Kyle? Does your face go red when you read the DM? Do you simply shit hatred for women who get the minimum amount of financial support because life dealth them a shit hand?

falsemessageoflethargy · 20/01/2011 14:06

Will noone help Pag out of her basement?

I've been away, had lunch, come back and still you're all on about the feckless - and that all must be true cos IlikeMilk has seen it on the telly - but no mention of Pag and her Stairs of Certain Doom. Very shoddy.

bupcakesandcunting · 20/01/2011 14:07

"I seen it on da telly"

That sounds like my mother who knows that the immigrants are running the show because she "read it in the paper" I have a stock response for this type of billy bollocks;

ITCHY BEARD.

DameShirleyKnot · 20/01/2011 14:08

yy SGB it's like being jealous of someone with no legs cos they get to be pushed around in a wheelchair while you've got to bloody walk everywhere.

ILikeMilk · 20/01/2011 14:09

Sorry bupcake, I am guilty to admit I had never seen Jeremy Kyle's show. But I used to be a single mother too and I still managed to work full time and finish my education and even go for salsa classes, etc. So it can be done.

bupcakesandcunting · 20/01/2011 14:10

And they get all the best parking spaces them disableds whilst the TAXPAYER has to walk in teh rain.

BROKEN BRITAIN I tell you.

rezbites · 20/01/2011 14:10

ReclaimingmyinnerpeachyAs I have said, I am not classing all people on benefits and in social housing in the same way. Far from it. Many work, I know this. They are not the people I am talking about.

It's true, We do claim some tax credit, but both DH and I started our Working, and tax-paying, lives at 16. We were not claiming anything when we started our family and are only claiming this due to DH having to take a drop in salary. As soon as our circumstances change we will stop.

I am talking here about a very small minority who chosen not to work, but to have illegitimate children as a means of fulfilling the criteria to be on benefits. And they are quite open about it.

ilikemilk I am not feeling sorry for myself, these women aren't taking anything away from me. If your husband earns enough to have to pay 100k tax, then I would imagine he had a uni education in which case our taxes would have gone towartds his grant if he had one. So its Quid Pro Quo.

I am just angry that some people know how to play the system, and give all of us who have to claim something a bad name. Meanwhile there are who are in genuine need through no fault of their own but find that the resources to help them are not there.

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bupcakesandcunting · 20/01/2011 14:11

I am so happy that you found single motherhood a breeze. I bet your kids think you're a tit, though.

DameShirleyKnot · 20/01/2011 14:11

Oh thank GOD you could still afford to go to Salsa.

RealityIsKnockedUp · 20/01/2011 14:12

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ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo · 20/01/2011 14:12

had to go and get ds from school but just replying to this post

"ILoveIt, but we were talking about YOUNG MOTHERS THAT CHOOSE IT AS A LIFESTYLE. Not the people that got into this situation due to bad lack/circumstances, etc. So why did you get defensive?"

becase you directed a post at me and told me to carry on sitting on my sorry arse because other people had been to uni, or somesuch garbage. that is why i defended myself.

bupcakesandcunting · 20/01/2011 14:13

Fucking hell, Boo. Get back to your workbench. The you an have a nice relaxing shower.

FabbyChic · 20/01/2011 14:14

The title of this thread leaves a bitter aftertaste, it is actually quite disgusting.

I bet the OP is middle class too.

CoronaAndLime · 20/01/2011 14:14

look guys,

You are all being very unfair to ilikemilk here!

She/he/it has watched a couple of programs on the television and as a result has unbiased facts about these poor teenag whores mothers.

You shuld give her and her wonderful made up DH the respect they deserve.

SHE WATCHED TV FFS Angry

lifeinlimbo · 20/01/2011 14:15

I HATE bloody walkin'

All those disabled scrounging all the wheelchairs, gettin pushed about everywhere. Ah Sah it on d' telly!

yeh, BROKEN BRITTAIN

ILikeMilk · 20/01/2011 14:15

Bupcake, my eldest son by my first husband (the one that had to live in a single-parent household for a number of years) thinks I am the best mother in the world :) And I am not sure if he ever heard the word "tit" LOL

StartingAfresh · 20/01/2011 14:18

Honestly, the cost of benefit fraud doesn't come close to the money wasted on government administraion errors.

Why do you care so much what someone else is or isn't getting?

How do you know that these people that you speak about think the world owe them a living? Have they said that to you?

What is the difference between a feckless single parent and a non-feckless single parent?

bupcakesandcunting · 20/01/2011 14:18

ILikeMilk.

Be quiet. You are bankrupt of brains. Thanks.

bupcakesandcunting · 20/01/2011 14:19

And OMG you have kids by DIFFERENT FATHERS? WTF? Your moral highhorse just bucked you right of it's back, you revolting specimen.

pascoe28 · 20/01/2011 14:19

I genuinely view the the status quo (i.e. the payment of the underclass to have children, despite being unable to afford to have them) as no worse than abuse.

Those that defend it (oh so funnily) fail to see the appalling lives such benefits recipients lead and will perpetuate amongst their children.

It's almost as if they want people to suffer in such a way, just so long as their 'liberal' consciences are eased slightly by having argued for someon else's money to be spent on the problem.

Pathetic.

ILikeMilk · 20/01/2011 14:20

Bupcake, nobody is perfect.