To think that resources are being wasted on underserving scrubbers

[rezbites]

It makes me very angry to think that deserving parents, like Riven and her partner, are being denied the help the help they so clearly need when there are others in our society who are bleeding the system dry and giving nothing back. Please let me explain what I mean.

Where I live (and in other parts of the country too, I'm sure) there is a certain "underclass" of young women - you know the ones I mean - little scrubbers who clearly model themselves on Vicky Pollard - who are provided with everything by the State. They have not suffered abandonment, divorce or bereavement. They have not been made redundant or struggled to find a job - they have never tried to get one. They have chosen to become single mothers, straightout of school in many cases, so that they qualify for social housing and benefits to live on, claiming that they cannot work because they have a child. They think the world owes them a living and it is their right to claim all these things. I do not mean to suggest that they are typical of single parents or council tenants generally because I know that they are not. They are a feckless, but very visible, minority.

Why should the country waste resouces on these selfish, irresponsible deadbeats who have chosen that lifestyle, at the expense of people in genuine need of help - the disabled, the vulnerable and those who through no fault of their own have ended up in very difficult circumstances?

can i just ask-

people are all equating council housing / joblessness etc with lifelong dependency

why?

so many of our benefits claimants nin the uk either ARE working (hb for example, Dad had a council home and worked every day- still does at almost 70)

and plenty had a job / partner / health last week but not today

demonising groups such aas claimants is an attempt to wash that all away and not face up to the fact that most people are one bad day away from need

Oh and by the way - I posted something further up the thread. Here it is again:

"there seem to be quite a few of you out there who are of the opinion that only people of a certain socio-economic background should be allowed to have children. What next? Only those above a certain IQ? Or perhaps only those of a certain physiognomy (tall, blonde hair, blue eyes). Are there those among you who would have preferred to discuss favourite biscuit types with Adolf Hitler rather than Gordon Brown?"

This is the OP's very own words. Weird really to hold two such opposing views all in the same week. Although this post was in response to a poster attacking the Tax Credits.

I guess that it's ok to be a bit Hitler-y when you're talking about filthy benefit scum, but not so much about people claiming tax credits benefits

DameShirleyKnot What is the answer? Well, that really is a question, isn't it. We have no choice but to support the children of these mothers, because, as many of you have pointed out, it's not their fault and they don't deserve to be penalised. The Answer, and there is probably more than one, if there is one at all, lies in changing attitudes so that the issue is not an ongoing one.

In the past it was not socially acceptable to become an unmarried mother - and while this was very unfortunate for those who did find themselves in that situation and who were unfairly demonised, it did at least mean that no-one chose unwed motherhood as a lifestyle. (My own mother was illegitimate, there was no welfare state when she was born. My grandmother did not choose that lifestyle, but neither did she ask anyone else to be responsible for the upkeep of her child. She worked. Not an ideal situation, but they managed.) But attitudes have changed. It is now perfectly acceptable to be an unmarried mother. This is not all bad - there are many women who find themselves in this situation through no fault of their own and who deserve help and support to bring up their little one(s). But there are a few who have used this shift in attitude to avoid taking any responsibility for themselves and their actions.

Perhaps one of the things we need to do as a society is to make this a less attractive option.

Better education/sex education does not seem to have done the trick so far. There is no quick-fix solution now - values need to change. What happened to the sense of pride, honour and, dare i say it, shame, that our parents and grandparents had?

Lifeinlimbo, DH forks over 100K in taxes to allow people like you feel sorry for themselves. So dont bite the hand that feeds you and all that.

a good shot of employment along with all the others who have done the course and then all the other people who have gone to uni and donethere degree, and oh wait, non eof them are even getting jobs now are they? good shot my arse.

Man, I totally fucking WIN this one.

So then sit on your sorry arse ILoveIt, and dont do anything, as there always be people that went to uni/took courses/etc etc.

"So I give you a solution. But it means some effort, isn't it? So that all you can say - fuck off. Because you know I am right."

You haven't given me a solution, you dolt. I have a job,cheers. Or is it because my mum was black single mum with a slag's glass? Is that it? are you being single-mummist? Bugger off.

You could offer me a solution that I need by shutting your blowhole so I don't have to read your nazi-esque bollockspew in the guise of "helpfulness" if you like?

How many fingers and to who, Reality?

It's important that we know.

ILikeMilk - tut tut dear, no need to get so nasty. I earn 40 billionty quid a year and I pay your wages and so NER.

I have read some utter shit on here today!

The foreigners are taking all our jobs, the scrubbers are taking all our money, the under classes are blah blah blah ad infinitum.

An extermination camp or two would do it OP. Get on to your MP.

Sterilisation (compulsory)

Ilike eff off with your 'hand that feeds you' crap. who the hell do you think you are? as someone else said, we are all one bad day away from need. you included.

"I earn 40 billionty quid a year and I pay your wages"

Fuckinell. Which street corner you on Shirls? One in Mayfair?

"mothers criticised more because they are the ones that claim money and demand a council house?"

No, mothers are criticised more, even thought they are shouldering the responsiblity of raising their children while the men walk away, because they are women and our society hates women.

Come on over to the feminist section and find out more.

and what sort of a cunt likes milk? It is actually vile.

"An extermination camp or two would do it OP. Get on to your MP."

It's a WORKHOUSE Keep your voice down, dear.

no HerBex. I want my cognative dissonance back now please, the whole feminism section has turned me into a very angry person, and I blame YOU.

Milk is cow's piss. My brother told me that when we were little :(

Actually, ILikeMilk, your DH's taxes go to fund my flatscreen TV and carefree lifestyle.

I asked specifically to have them taken from him and given to me.

HTH.

I bath in milk paid for by ILikeMilk's DH's taxes, Shirley.

actually milk i am midway through becoming registered as a childminder. i am lucky that i can do this. i left my job last may when i had a partner who was supporting me while i went through the process, i was claiming nothing, then life threw me a lemon and he left so i am now a single parent of two on income support. getting a job that i would be qualified for outside of the home is nigh on impossible here and even if i did, teh cost of childcare would make me worse off than i am now, so i am continuing with my original plan or getting regisitered. yes it means benefits for a while but no forever. so get lost with your sorry arse aswell.

hee hee

When I was on benefits I used to get the money from the post office and just rip it up in front of decent people before taking a shit in the street and watching Jeremy Kyle wearing tracksuits paid for by the UK taxpayer.