To think that resources are being wasted on underserving scrubbers

[rezbites]

It makes me very angry to think that deserving parents, like Riven and her partner, are being denied the help the help they so clearly need when there are others in our society who are bleeding the system dry and giving nothing back. Please let me explain what I mean.

Where I live (and in other parts of the country too, I'm sure) there is a certain "underclass" of young women - you know the ones I mean - little scrubbers who clearly model themselves on Vicky Pollard - who are provided with everything by the State. They have not suffered abandonment, divorce or bereavement. They have not been made redundant or struggled to find a job - they have never tried to get one. They have chosen to become single mothers, straightout of school in many cases, so that they qualify for social housing and benefits to live on, claiming that they cannot work because they have a child. They think the world owes them a living and it is their right to claim all these things. I do not mean to suggest that they are typical of single parents or council tenants generally because I know that they are not. They are a feckless, but very visible, minority.

Why should the country waste resouces on these selfish, irresponsible deadbeats who have chosen that lifestyle, at the expense of people in genuine need of help - the disabled, the vulnerable and those who through no fault of their own have ended up in very difficult circumstances?

yes bestmama. Why aren't you concentrating on getting a job so that then you can be villified for leaving your baby in childcare while you work, and then when they're not babies anymore they can be called the "feral youth" who are causing the breakdown of society.

Come on girl, get a fucking grip on!

Ok just give them all a job then. simples.

Oh wait, instead our wise government is sacking 1 MILLIOOOOOON people, from their own hard working jobs, and dumping them all on JSA?

Oh and there are 20 MILLIOOOOOOON people who already dont have a job but are of working age?

How can this be? Arent there loads of jobs? Whats that gromet, only 0.5 mill jobs available in the whole country? How many people does that make per job then? anyone know maffs here?

DameShirley, going twice a week to college for 2 hours is hardly leaving a baby in child care. And from what I understand the child is around 3-4 years old, hardly a baby. Will be starting school soon.

They should be doing those jobs what them foreigners do then we can get rid of them and all.

Lifeinlimbo, it is very easy to find a reason and justification not to work.

what like there be not enough jobs to go around?

HA HA HA

DameShirley, I doubt the "lyfestyle" single mothers would like to take a job in a fish factory or picking strawberries given a chance...

Lifestyle! Gah

I get the impression on this thread that if you don't have a solution to the "Career Sponger/Breeder" problem, you aren't supposed to have an opinion.

No, I don't think they should all be put down. No, I don't want their poor children taken away from them and put into homes. I don't know WHAT the solution is.

But guess what? I'm still allowed to think that the sort of person the OP describes DOES exist, and that it's wrong.

'I'm sorry to point out that this is the price you pay for having a welfare state. You get rid of the laws of nature and natural selection. In the wild, crap mothers don't manage to raise their off-spring. It ends there. It's an uncomfortable truth, but there it is, if people stopped shying away from talking straight about these things and stopped trying to hide behind pc clap trap we might get somewhere.

'

So what you are saying then is when I was 38 week spg and Dh got sick for a while we should have starved so we could not produce further kids? Even though DH was back in six months

At the risk of deletion

fuck off

IlikeMilk

what course do you know of that is only four hours a week will make bestmama as employable at least as all the other people applying for the same jobs which will no doubt pay minimum wage (meaning childcare cancels out teh wage)and wont fit in around school hours? which course is this? where do i apply for that oh so tempting prospect?

I'm going to stop this battle of wits with you now ilikemilk as you appear to be unarmed.

And scrubbers. Don't forget dem scrubbers.

Is there anyone posting on here that is out of work? Come on to my workhouse. Arbecht Macht Frei or summat. Nothing wrong with breaking rocks for a living. I can arrange to have you forcibly sterilised on entry too, save you the hassle of populating the country further with your workshy offspring.

ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo, how about AAT course for starters? It runs 2 times a week, 2 hours and gives you a good shot at employment just after completing the first level. My friend (single mum) is taking it at the moment, and college is also securing her a work placement. The course is 100% free and she gets bus money.

joins the queue for bupcakes gaschamber workhouse

I suppose this is one negative side-effect of all the publicity. Bloody idiots invading mumsnet and posting to inflame.

Arses.

"ILoveItWhenYouCallMeBoo, how about AAT course for starters? It runs 2 times a week, 2 hours and gives you a good shot at employment just after completing the first level. My friend (single mum) is taking it at the moment, and college is also securing her a work placement. The course is 100% free and she gets bus money."

See, the problem with this is

Look just fuck off, mate.

Wait shouldnt all these traditional nasty tory types be saying that all the mums should stay at home and raise the kids and the dads should have all the jobs and pay the bills?

Sounds like all the mums are doing their traditional bit, but where are the dads? They are the problem with this picture, sort it out 'ilikemilk', you twat.

GEROFF she's MINE!

rezbites Thu 20-Jan-11 12:50:09:

"I would like to point out that I am most definitely neither wealthy nor middle-class. I am not well-educated and when I was at school, myself and my class-mates were repeatedly told by teachers (who had given up trying to teach us anything) that none of us would ever have jobs. A few of the girls did take the decision to get pregnant deliberately, but most of us didn't, we just went out there and tried harder. [...] I too was unemployed for a while and had to claim benefits. Did I choose to delibarately get pregnant? NO. I used the time to try to gain new skills and qualifications to help me to be more employable so that I could come off benefits as soon as possible."

Don't believe you. Your style, mode of expression and outlook all point to a different upbringing than you describe. In my judgement you are either exaggerating your own experiences or quoting someone else's. Sure, anyone can learn after they've been to school - done evening classes and home study m'self, have a friend who was never even taught to spell but ended up with a BSc and post-graduate diploma - but the early influences always make a difference (not necessarily for the better or for that matter the worse). I could be totally wrong, of course, but then outside your protestations we'll never know for certain. You could be anyone, just as I could. But "poor girl made good" - you just don't smell like one.

Oh, and "P.S. I don't read The Mail or The Sun" - no, you're a Telegraph woman (or conceivably man) through and through unless I much mistake the matter.

Lifeinlimbo, stop being so common dear.

So I give you a solution. But it means some effort, isn't it? So that all you can say - fuck off. Because you know I am right.

Oh thats true shirl . Sorry ilikemilk, I shouldnt be mean to you. Its not right to pick on the disadvantaged.