that you shouldn't open a hotel if you only want straight married couples to stay in it?

[JoanofArgos]

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/14/christian-couple-barred-gay-couple-shut-hotel

Horrid old bigots, say I.

muminscotland.. the point is.. I WOULDNT book in the first place. I would go somewhere that I knew without any doubt, I would be welcome.

A civil partnership between two men is not the same as a marriage between a man and a woman in the eyes of GOD.

Actually, they could have stayed in a lovely hotel just two doors up, where DH, DS and I stayed a few years ago. Lovely unconventional place, with the ground floor rooms used for massage and other alternative therapies. I'm sure they'd have liked it better.

But they still have the right to book any hotel they pick at random and ask for a double room. Its a business, and they have to obey the law whether they personally agree with it or not. They couldn't just decide their faith said they didn't have to have any fire exits, nor can they just ignore any other law that contradicts their beliefs.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of this, I thought that it wasn't a hotel, but just their home where they sometimes offered B and B accommodation.

Not quite the same as a hotel.

Buzzlightbeer of course it's different. You tend to find people don't want to bugger one another in a restaurant. At least not the ones I go to.

The fact that it is a "Christian" establishment should not mean that people assume it will therefore be completely intolerant and bigotted. "Christian" is not the same thing as "bigotted". Many of us Christians actually manage to be tolerant and accept everyone as God made them, regardless of sexuality, and have picked up the weird idea that this is the sort of thing that Jesus taught.

1. its nothing to do with cash, but human rights

2. why would you care what kind of sex is going in the bedrooms? Do you have some kind of preoccupation with other peoples sex lives?

3. you are clearly not going to the best restaurants.

"A civil partnership between two men is not the same as a marriage between a man and a woman in the eyes of GOD."

How do you know?

*It is perfectly acceptable to have a niche market establishment.

It is not acceptable to have an 'open to everybody except the minority' establishment.

Surely you can see the difference?*

Yes, I can see the difference.. it is called inequality.

I am neither stupid nor homophobic. However, straight people do not feel the need to go around having parades and demanding their rights because they are not obsessed with a lifestyle that is based on sexuality.

I have no problem with gay people but fail to understand why they need to shout out that they are gay to everyone within a hundred mile radius. I dont want to know anyone elses sexual preferences.

I'm not homophobic, but..... you might as well have it stamped on your forehead that you are a bigot.

RustyBear Tue 18-Jan-11 19:12:02
"A civil partnership between two men is not the same as a marriage between a man and a woman in the eyes of GOD. How do you know?
"

Well unless a miracle has happened, I have yet to meet a gay couple who can procreate naturally.

Oh it is bloody awful, being straight and forever getting discriminated against, isn't it?

Sorry, though - I'm going to have to go and ask the benders in Durham to stop bawling I'M GAY I'M GAY I'M GAY, because I can't hear myself have an apoplexy here in York.

You aren't terribly bright, are you?

How is booking a hotel room shouting out your sexuality? Yeah - it's just like having a parade, dontchakno...

Why is it hateful to be of the opinion that a child should have a father and a mother, not two fathers or two mothers?

Oh - and yes, it was originally described as a b&b, but on the R4 news tonight it was definitely referred to as a(n) [ponce alert!] hotel!

Unhappyshopper - my point was that you do not know what is or is not acceptable in the eyes of God - you may think you know, but you can't be sure.

you could you stick to one point for a moment shopper? Is it procreating naturally or having same sex parents, cos they are not the same things. And could you tell us all when god spoke to you and informed you that gay people shouldn't be parents?

They said they were Christian - they didn't say they were bigots. Plenty of christians, myself included, would have no problem whatsoever with a couple that happen to be gay.

If you choose to run a business in this country, you run it in accordance with the laws of this country. If you want to ban gay people, black people, Irish people or whoever, then you take yourself off to somewhere where it is acceptable under the law to do so. Like the 1950s. Or Saudi Arabia.

Good on those young men.

And shame on those so called "Christians" who spent the Christmas period proclaiming their desire to turn travellers away from their inn.

STRAW MAN ALERT

Unhappyshopper that's fucking irrelevant, and not what reality was saying. You stated that a marriage is only a marriage if it is a man and a woman who can have children. Therefore infertile couples are not married in the eyes of god.

If you choose to run a business in this country, you run it in accordance with the laws of this country. If you want to ban gay people, black people, Irish people or whoever, then you take yourself off to somewhere where it is acceptable under the law to do so. Like the 1950s. Or Saudi Arabia.

Abso fuckin lutely.

This hotelier couple just seem so unkind- how is that Christian? Jesus never said anything about gay people, to my knowledge. It feels appropriate here to link to this to show how ridiculous it is to promote homophobia as somehow relevant to Christianity.

well, Reality, they could take their offspring for a lovely weekend break in those people's hotel, at least!