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AIBU?

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that you shouldn't open a hotel if you only want straight married couples to stay in it?

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JoanofArgos · 18/01/2011 18:18

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/14/christian-couple-barred-gay-couple-shut-hotel

Horrid old bigots, say I.

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TrillianAstra · 18/01/2011 18:21

to think that

'Am I beaing unreasonable that...' doesn't make any sense.

And no, YANBU. I have no idea how they decide if people are married when they make a booking. This is a good argument for why the distinction between 'marriage' and 'civil partnership' is stupid.

unhappyshopper · 18/01/2011 18:22

I say you shouldnt go to a privately owned hotel that advertised itself as christian run establishment, and demand a double bed.

I think this was a set up by the gay couple from the start.

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JoanofArgos · 18/01/2011 18:22

I know, I think I must have forgotten to type 'to think that' - I should've previewed it!

'That.....' sounds like some kind of nineteenth-century treatise, doesn't it? Sorry, all.

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JoanofArgos · 18/01/2011 18:23

unhappy - well if it was a set-up, it's exposed them for the nasty bigots they are, which is good, IMO!

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onimolap · 18/01/2011 18:23

The B&B was established before the change in the law, so what they thought at the time of opening isn't really relevant now.

You didn't have to be straight to stay there - but unmarried couples (gay or straight) were accommodated in single bedded rooms. They did not, owing to their religious belief, consider civil partnership as sufficient. Today's verdict shows they were wrong in that.

lal123 · 18/01/2011 18:24

so what if it was a set up? Also wonder if they ask to see marriage certificates of heterosexual couples??

BuzzLightBeer · 18/01/2011 18:26

They talk such bollocks " we should be allowed to run our home according to your beliefs" etc.

Well you can, just not when you turn your home into a business and charge people for staying in it. Then you have to follow both the law and common decency.

LaurieFairyonthetreeEatsCake · 18/01/2011 18:28

I don't think it's up to them to police the relationship between people and God.

I would be most upset if my lovely nephew-in-law and his girlfriend were turned away from there as they are unmarried (they are extremely committed Christians but they quite often share a room - whether they have sex is up to them and God - I don't think they do but it is a private matter)

It is perfectly possible to share a hotel room and not have sex.

unhappyshopper · 18/01/2011 18:52

Hang on a moment.. there are plenty of "gay friendly" hotels.. that happily advertise that fact.. so why would a couple of gay men make a beehive for one that prides itself on its'christian values. A religion that does not promote homosexuality.

Like it or not, many people in this country may be offended by a pair of gay men openly kissing at the breakfast table.

2shoes · 18/01/2011 18:54

yanbu

LadyThumb · 18/01/2011 18:55

I would be offended by ANY couple kissing over the breakfast table!

Caoimhe · 18/01/2011 18:55

Why would they be kissing at the breakfast table? What a bizare thing to say!!!

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JoanofArgos · 18/01/2011 18:56

You hang on a minute, Unhappy.... so as long as MOST people aren't homophobic (or racist, or anything else unpleasant), it's ok for some to be? Sort of like a niche market?

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friedtoacrisp · 18/01/2011 18:58

Completely agree with the unhappy shopper above. A deliberate set up to get some compo. Add to that a nasty bit of anti Christian agenda in there somewhere and you have this. It never ever ceases to amaze me just exactly why gay men have to parade their sexuality and expect everyone to love them for it. Why can't they just shut the fuck up and get on with their lives just like everyone else has to. Would I go to a hotel that advertised itself as Muslim only? No I pissing wouldn't.

unhappyshopper · 18/01/2011 18:59

its bloody unfair if you ask me..

why are these people legally allowed advertise their hotel as "gay only"

typical of this country with its' one rule for one, and one rule for another...

www.guyzhotel.com/

from the ad (if you dont want to open the link)

"That means it is a hotel owned and run BY gay people FOR gay people,
but beware there are some straight owned ?Pink Pound? friendly Hotels
locally that display the pride flag trying to cash in on gay money,
and it isn?t until you check in that you discover they may be mixed, or even have
STAG & HEN parties staying.!!!
If you are specifically looking for a Gay Hotel be sure to ask if it is exclusively
gay when booking to avoid possible disappointment"

EricNorthmansMistress · 18/01/2011 19:00

YANBU

they should not have a business that involves people sharing beds in their house if they object to the gender or marital status of the couples. The law is the law and in this case it was upheld. Good.

EricNorthmansMistress · 18/01/2011 19:01

why gay men have to parade their sexuality and expect everyone to love them for it.

Contender for stupidest statement of the year?

unhappyshopper I'd be surprised if that hotel wasn't breaking the law as well.

ilovemyhens · 18/01/2011 19:02

They're just following what their beliefs teach them. The term 'homophobic' means that somebody suffers from an irrational fear of homosexuals, which I don't think these people do, they're just following the rules as they understand them.

People might not like it, but that's the case. There's a lot in the Gospels that people find offensive, but people will believe what they believe and they will see it as arguing a case against God, which is futile if you believe that God is all powerful and we are supposed to be in obedience to Him.

ZebrasAreSpotty · 18/01/2011 19:03

Heaven knows what the decor is like if the landlady's dress sense is anything to go by (beige turtleneck a la 1970s) - maybe they should welcome gay men, who are, after all, stereotypically interested in interior design

AMumInScotland · 18/01/2011 19:04

unhappyshopper - I'm sure if you booked a stay in guyzhotel and then were turned away for not being gay, you'd have exactly the same recourse to the courts for compensation as the couple in the above article.

Nobody is asking for the right to "parade their sexuality" here, just to share a double bed with their civil partner, who has the exact same legal status as a wife or husband.

RustyBear · 18/01/2011 19:04

"why would a couple of gay men make a beehive for one that prides itself on its'christian values"

Because they felt sorry for homeless bees?

AutoCorrect strikes again?

friedtoacrisp · 18/01/2011 19:04

In your opinion it's stupid Eric. Not in mine. I think everyone - gay, straight or not sure should shut the fuck up about what they like to do in the bedroom. Just shut it. Nobody gives a shit.

RealityIsKnockedUp · 18/01/2011 19:05

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BuzzLightBeer · 18/01/2011 19:05

You can follow the rules of your religion all you like in your home, not in your business. If you owned a restaurant you couldn't bar gay people from your tables, in a shop you can't sell stuff to straight people only. A hotel is no different.

And as for the homophobic excuses for human beings above defending the right to be bigots, I do hope all of your children are gay. And your husbands.

friedtoacrisp · 18/01/2011 19:06

And IF unhappy shopper is stupid enough to check into a gay only hotel then he or she should have a quiet word with him or herself and try not to misjudge the situation quite so stupidly in future NOT go crying for compo.

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