Sutton High Street

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In thinking that the people who inflicted the new and 'improved' Sutton High Street' on us should all be sacked?

I actually think it's a shame we can't tie them to the benches,(which they obviously rescued from a skip/dump) and give them all a sound public flogging!

Not only did someone design this sorry-looking High Street but lots of other twats actually thought it was good enough to inflict on us!

So, what have we got for our millions? A truly shitty High Street which I can't bear to see so I have stopped shopping in Sutton. We've got so many different types of paving on the ground that it looks like someone's started doing it and changed their minds several times, the above-mentioned benches and a stupid bloody 'farm'.

It looks so horrendous that it truly does have to be seen to be believed. It's a complete bloody embarrassment. (When we have visitors we make sure they don't go within a mile of it) and it really is taking the fucking piss out of Sutton's Council-tax payers. I'm so angry about it, even now, months/years? later. Why would anyone want to shop in Sutton and have the sight of the High Street inflicted on them when they can't even stop for a rest on a decent bloody bench. Epsom, Kingston, Croydon are all 'state-of-the-art' compared to this fucking tip of a High Street.

wheredidyoulastseeit I think you are the only person on here today who has read and understood my OP.

I think other people may have read and understood it but just disagree (it happens - or arent that fussed) and maybe didnt like the tone iyswim.

Although I do think that Carminaburana and SuttonTsarina are one and the same and that she is having a conversation with herself - which confirms my earlier thinking.

I read & understood your op.

I don't agree with you - that's all.

Nope - we're not the same I'm afraid - you'll have to accept the fact that some people just dont agree with you. I know its hard.

If carmina was the Sutton Tsarina there might be a few more local entries anyway

Not sure about the "lowest crime rate"

Last year a bloke was hacked to death in broad daylight, in front of a beer garden full of families, another man was kicked to death simply for defending his girlfriend who had been assaulted by a bunch of yobs..

And there were quite a few other murders too...

"lowest crime rate" in sutton! I think sutton and croydon are on par actually.
I moved from sutton to Nice part of Croydon didnt notice much difference to be honest.

Still got a dodgey end of croydon ie. west croydon pretty much the same as the dodgey end of sutton.

Sutton has very much earned it's name slutton.

Good lord, there are far worse places that the shopping centre part of Croydon. Of course, it helps that I know where I'm going. You do have to pick your time though. I reckon everywhere was hell for Christmas shopping.

Does anyone remember the Whitgift Centre when it was made of concrete and had the Forum pub in the middle? Now that was a hell hole (especially when you see what they knocked down to build it). It's all quite nice now.

fiqures here

Sutton has the 3rd lowest crime rate after Kingston and Richmond - (and only 3rd by a small number) It's a very safe area and I personally wouldn't live anywhere else.

3rd out of 32 boroughs is pretty damn impressive.

It's not the town of Sutton that has a low crime rate - it's the London Borough of Sutton - that covers a big area. I would bet on Sutton itself having a very high crime rate.

That's like saying you're more likely to get hit by a bus if you stand in front of it - of course crime will be higher in the town centre, that's where the majority of people congregate and where most of the pubs/ clubs/shops etc are. But if you take the figures as a whole, Sutton is safe - there's no argument here.

Crime will always be higher in major town centres.

I grew up near Sutton and there are much much worse places. Fair enough I haven't seen the crazy new floor and the ironic benches but on the other hand have any of you ever seen Rotherham town centre? Not that is a sight to behold . Boarded up shops, local wino's drunk and hanging outside the pubs at 11am, ugly buildings, unfriendly people and the smell of industrial pollution everywhere. now THAT is grim...

I think statistically the crime rate - especially for a fri/sat night will be the same for Sutton, Kingston and Wimbledon - all places I would avoid after about 8 or 9pm on a fri/sat.

Thanks for all the Deen City Farm support. The best thing there is in South West London.

Maybe we should have a meet-up in one of our fave town centres. I frequent them all, personally. I am a bit in love with Carshalton for all its little artsy craftsy shops and right-on coffee.

The borough of Sutton is different to the town Sutton.

The borough may have be relatively safe, but Sutton itself has a high crime rate.

Like others have said, it is certainly not somewhere you would want to go out for a drink at weekends unless you like seeing mindless violence, and drunken yobbish behaviour.

I didnt grow up here, and I have worked all over the UK, and seen a lot of worse places... but I have also seen how much Sutton has declined in the last ten years too, and it is no longer an area that we enjoy living in.

Never been to Carshalton-sounds nice.

Carshalton is a lovely place.

Yay! I'm not alone. And it's right next to Sutton - within the borough of Sutton.

notalone i have to agree with you. Sutton does rate above Rotherham - i know both well!
My DSs enjoyed their rides on the wooden animals, but i didn't enjoy washing off the muck that they left on their clothes. Damp wood marks are a mare to get off!
When services are cut in the borough - such as Oakleigh Day centre, SN transport etc, the money spent on tarting up the shopping centre, or the life centre seems incredulous.
Having said this, I like living in the borough. Its pros far outweigh its cons, but i'm not naive enough to not recognise the 'con' when i see it.

I worked in Sutton back in the early to mid nineties, it was always a shithole. Mind you, I lived in Morden, that was far worse. I worked in Kingston to, that was lovely. Deen City Farm was fab, and we used to go to Wimbledon Village just to get lovely expensive foodie treats in Bayley and Sage ( I miss London wages). Carshalton village is very pretty, but what was that right dodgy pub there, someone was brutally murdered? Anyway I live in Cork now thank god.

[feels homesick]

I knew Mitcham would get a slagging.

[sigh] There's some right bloody snobs on here.

Mitcham/Sutton/Croydon ... they're just normal places with normal people living in them.

glastocat, the St Helier Arms got demolished about 10 years or so ago, that was particularly gruesome from what I remember. They built houses on the site and rebuilt the library last year and the old circle clinic a few years back so looks a lot better now. That's more the st helier end then the village end though. I like Sutton as an area, lots of green open space, trees and parks, not something you get going further into London.

at auntevil, yes, the new life centre or whatever it's called, got dubbed Sutton's millenium dome

auntevil - I don't think it comes much worse than Rotherham. I actually feel all nostalgic for Surrey now - dodgy benches and all!