Women who smoke when pregnant are selfish, irresponsible fuckwits

[MsKLo]

...and so are parents who smoke around their babies/children. I see soooooo many parents pushing prams and smoking or driving and smoking with babies in their car seats etc.

And the number of times I have seen pregnant women having a fag...

Selfish, irresponsible fuckwits

And for the record, I am an ex smoker. I LOVED smoking but stopped before I starte trying for a baby as it was, and is not, fair to inflict my selfish habit on my babies.

LismcA-thats right it is "their choice" to smoke.It is not the choice of the unborn child! They dont have a choice they are relying on their mothers to protect them by providing the healthiest environment for them to grow in. Lucky you that you werent effected by your mothers smoking.As I have already posted I wasnt so lucky and her selfishness has had a knock on effect on my own dc.

"when your baby is a feminised boy or a girl with G cup breasts aged 18 and then thyroid problems and a risk of breast cancer later, she'll only have you to thank."

When I was 18 I was a feminised girl with G cup breasts and a thyroid problem - what are you diagnosing me with exactly? maternal soya consumption or maternal smoking?

Leonie, can you explain why consultants in a major UK teaching hospital with dedicated - and acknowledged to be amongst the very best, if not THE best - breast cancer research facilities have TOLD this breast cancer survivor that soya milk and products are far more beneficial to her than the oestrogens found in meat, milk and so on? Bearing in mind that my cancer was one which was feeding voraciously on oestrogen, so much so that my overaies were removed in order to prevent its production and thus a recurrence of the cancer?

*ovaries, sorry.

Because of your remarks about soya and, to altinkum, the fact that you appear to link soya consumption to breast cancer.

Ah. I see, sorry.

I guess I'm just one of those rogue statistics again. There was no soya in my diet as a baby but I was diagnosed with breast cancer at age 37 nonetheless.

That aside, I'd be inclined to have more interest in the OP's POV if she wasn't so unpleasantly aggressive about it.

LeonieDelt - My DD was prescribed soya formula from the age of one as she had a cows milk allergy - they no longer prescribe soya formula but I'm not sure why, is it because it is dangerous ?

sorry posted that before I saw the huge amount of info posted

I managed to read about halfway through this thread but I badly need a fag now, going to make up DD's bottle and have a fag out the kitchen window then I can finish reading it which she is in the bath.

Phew its a longun!

Vallhalla

I hope all is well with you now and you are recovering

I know i can be aggressive in my posts - I blame the moon...

hope all is well with you though

OP, YANBU.