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Women who smoke when pregnant are selfish, irresponsible fuckwits

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MsKLo · 08/01/2011 00:13

...and so are parents who smoke around their babies/children. I see soooooo many parents pushing prams and smoking or driving and smoking with babies in their car seats etc.

And the number of times I have seen pregnant women having a fag...

Selfish, irresponsible fuckwits

And for the record, I am an ex smoker. I LOVED smoking but stopped before I starte trying for a baby as it was, and is not, fair to inflict my selfish habit on my babies.

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MumsMunchkin · 08/01/2011 13:33

So Leonie - my stillbirth was due to me smoking before I got pregnant because of all the nasty chemicals inside of me.

Wow - fucking amazing.

People who spray their houses with air freshner, use lots of bleach, live by a busy road and use the tube everyday probably have more 'nasty chemicals' inside them.

I remember that my snot (not that I picked it of course, when I blew my nose) used to black when I lived in London pre-kids. Now that's disgusting.

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wukter · 08/01/2011 13:56

Wow this is totally new information! Smoking is harmful - who'd have thought?
what exactly is your intention Leonie? To feel good about yourself? To upset someone else? It's not to educate as this thread has NEVER been about arguing that smoking is harmless.

winnybella · 08/01/2011 13:58

Leonie-you're way out of line here. Yes, smoking increases risks of many things, but if the foetus is healthy few cigarettes a day will not cause it to be stillborn, ffs Hmm

FWIW- I was told by two eminent doctors (ob-gyn) that smoking no more than 5 cigarettes a day while pregnant will not harm the foetus. I suppose it's because the amount of nasty chemicals in those 5 is not enough to make a difference.

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wukter · 08/01/2011 13:59

Any answer to my questions Leonie?

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FellatioNelson · 08/01/2011 14:03

As someone who grew up surrounded by smokers but who never ever had the urge to take it up myself I feel very very strongly about this. As a small child I absolutely detested being in smokey environments, yet I constantly was, at work, at home, with my friends, through no choice of my own, because I was in the minority and no-one gave a thought for what I needed in order to be comfortable/happy. I used to beg my mum to let me open the car windows because I felt so sick and she'd say no because it was too cold!

Even if you are not actually smoking, the permanent build-up of tobacco smell on your breath is utterly nauseating, and contrary to popular belief held by many smokers, it doesn't go away just because you suck a mint or clean your teeth - it's an all-enveloping smell that comes through your nose, and your pores 24 hours a day. You would have to go without cigarettes for days before it would go away. You just realise it because you have become desensitised to it. Most non-smokers can stand next to people in supermarket queues and tell you whether they smoke or not.

My DH gave up smoking when he met me, (20 years ago) but over the years he has gone through phases of being an occasional social smoker. He is having one of those phases at the moment. He thought he could hide it from me, but of course it didn't work, and once he realised I knew, there seemed little point in being so careful, which has led to him smoking more often, more openly. The kids have found out which means he has completely lost any credibility when lecturing them about the risks of smoking.

Even though he is currently smoking probably fewer than 20 a week, and never in front of me, I can still smell it on his breath and his skin when he is sleeping next to me, as it builds up, and it revolts me. It is causing us a few problems TBH as I don't want to cuddle or kiss him, but he just thinks I'm being controlling, and laying it on thick to make a point.

TBH I'm past caring about the principle, past caring about the health risks - his lungs and heart, not mine, but I can't get past the bloody disgusting taste/smell. Not sexy.

But at least I have a choice - a baby who is held close and smothered in horrible breath has no choice.

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MsKLo · 08/01/2011 14:04

Mumsmunchkin

Yes up to you to be happy that you smoked during last preg but up to me to think that was totally selfish and irresponsible of you

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FellatioNelson · 08/01/2011 14:05

Sorry, I meant you smokers don't realise it because they have become desensitised.

winnybella · 08/01/2011 14:06

Hmm. Did you see my previous post? But I guess I should listen to you than to a doctor.

wukter · 08/01/2011 14:09

You answered no question of mine Leonie. You smugly made up some justification of why who posted post after post of No Shit Sherlock news that smoking is harmful. We all KNOW that. So why did you do it?

Fellatio I think a lot of people were reared in that kind of atmosphere. It was the times I suppose. Very very few would inflict it on their children now.

MsKLo · 08/01/2011 14:09

Agreed fellationation

A baby has no choice and that is why it is so so wrong

Will all the mothers who smoked when pg be happy to tell their child they smoked when carrying them? If my mother had done this I would have been ashamed of her and if I had done this I would have been ashamed

And then people like mumsmunchkin come on an say they did almost like they are bragging - you really are ok with that? Amazing!

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MsKLo · 08/01/2011 14:11

Kuckingfunt

Oh the irony - you judge me then tell me not to judge others

Your name suits you

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