to think women writhing around in suspenders and stockings is...

[hatwoman]

...not really family viewing? I've barely watched x-factor in my life but I had thought everyone said that, for all its faults, it was something that had got families watching telly together. I was expecting wholesome boy bands and gutsy young girls. Clearly I'm naive and a prude.

Amijee- maybe our kids can go into care together while we go to r&b clubs and pornificate ourselves?
I should really e arrested because sometimes I listen to r&b and I'm pregnant, the poor baby will come out booty shaking

aimjee yes I have.

I'd be much happier if there were more male crotch shots. Proper ones, with a definite hint of cock. If we are going to the dogs, let's make it equal opportunity dogness. Because I can't see how the tide is going to be stemmed.

I don't want my little girls watching a burlesque show. I don't. It's that simple. It's not 'empowering', it's grown women shaking their arses for money.

That came on with no warning, parents had no chance to decide whether it was appropriate for their child.

The public trusts broadcasters to honour the watershed but ITV seemed to have forgotten about that.

Didn't take that get naked with jam smothered over their bums?

Actually we are all in our pyjamas as it's just before bed time!

So should I also be referred to ss for singing really loudly "your sex is on fire" in front of my kids?

Not even pissed off TBH. Just bored and irritated in my case. It's pathetic. Ooh look I've got tits and hips So fucking what? So have I ? So has every woman. But do you know the truly amazing thing, the really mind- blowing thing, some women actually have more going on than that. They have things that are more important in their lives than how sexy they are.

very glad my kids don't have tv at times like this
tabouleh love your post

Absolutely soup.

Let's see Matt Cardle shake his crotch around.

You can complain to OFCOM which regulates what is broadcast here

It shouldn't have been shown pre-watershed.It's cynical and it's part of all the malign influences that are acting to sexualise children too early and causing girls to think that all their worth is in how sexy they are.

it was not a burlesque show anyway. neither the outfits or dancing were burlesque style

Oh I would love that

i loathe this 'you shun pornography therefore you are a prude' bullshit

no i have not been to lap dancing club
no i never will
yes i know what goes on there

oh 'yes' I do like sex - just not pornography

But Orm don't you realise that there is nothing more important than how fuckable you appear to strangers?

Watching it, I thought the show was aimed at men rather than families - not a comfortable feeling.

Of course, how could I forget

Yes, shodatin, I'm extremely uncomfortable with showing material that's designed to arouse and titillate men to children.

Know your place Orm.

It's no longer the kitchen - we've moved on!

Who buys their music? Who are Christina and Rihanna aiming their appearances at?

Really? My DH used to get turned on by sarah Jayne in C beebies.

YANBU I also thought it crossed the line, ok the clothes were bad but it was the close up camera shots of the dancers crotches both from the front and behind. I was only watching with DH, and I felt like I was in a pole dancing club rather than my front room. I will also complain.

At a guess - teenage girls who want to emulate them, Notjustapot.

I should say that I have only been to a lap dancing club once, in Manhattan, when Stringfellows first opened there and we were invited (office near the venue). Went for free drinks and curiousity. Thought it was all rather meh. I wasn't a parent then but if I had been I wouldn't have taken my children. [fbear]

Amijee - that's relevant how?

Well, quite, wukter. It's not even targeted towards men. How fucked up is that?