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People on benefits should be put in the stocks

495 replies

MerrilyDefective · 03/12/2010 17:47

...and have rotten eggs and tomatos thrown at them.
How dare they go on holiday and be allowed to have christmas presents etc
They should live on bread and dripping.

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redflag · 04/12/2010 20:19

OH thats a good point to, someone has mentioned if disabled people were not fortunate enough to live in the UK they would be left to die.

Ermm are those other countries the ones we send Millions of pounds to in aid every year?

Hmm
fulltimeworkingmum · 04/12/2010 20:29

I pay a LOT of tax on my earnings but surely those who really cannot work should be supported and helped. I have serious issues with the plain lazy but how can that be proved???

MerrilyDefective · 04/12/2010 20:33

I think it was Ghandi who said
'A society is judged by the way it treats it's most vulnerable'.

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MittzyBittzyTeenyWeeny · 04/12/2010 20:40

Well I'm all for it as long as the stocks are these ones and I can just have a snuggle and a snooze while I am there!

And Riven they have a furniture range named after you Smile

I think it should be more. £100 at the least.

I am not disabled but spent 3 months on a spinal injuries ward. This does not give me a special insight into how it must be to live with a disability but it does give me enough humility to even start to imagine how it must be.

Yes there may be scroungers, but until they completely over-hall parliament we seem to be stuck with them.

Our local council has just spent approx £5.500 employing an agency to come up with a new name for a fucking sports centre. Angry. I would have fought tooth and nail for it to go to 55 families of disabled people instead of a crappy name that could have been better thought up by school children.

To the people that begrudge it I defy you to spend a day in the nearest hospital that deals with the kind of disabilities that many many people live with and then quietly leave a tenner in the nearest charity pot and learn some humility and humanity yourselves.

cupcakebakerer · 04/12/2010 20:47

I think Ghandi would roll over in his grave if he thought his words were being used on this thread.

MittzyBittzyTeenyWeeny · 04/12/2010 20:51

I very, very much disagree with you there cupcake.

I think those words are deeply apt.

Nancy66 · 04/12/2010 20:54

What are people talking about here - a bonus for EVERYBODY on every type of benefit or just special cases?

I'd hate to see some lazy tosser with a 'bad back' rewarded with an extra £100.

However when it comes to the elderly and disabled - I want them to be able to have whatever they need

pagwatch · 04/12/2010 20:55

I think if ghandi looked at this thread, being quoted would be the last of his concerns.

I like mums net. If someone is being a total cunt one can say so. Very civilised IMO.

MerrilyDefective · 04/12/2010 20:56

Why would he 'roll over in his grave'?
If more people lived by that sort of code the world would be a kinder place.
I'm sure Ghandi would have wanted that.

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pagwatch · 04/12/2010 20:57

Disability Nancy.

cupcakebakerer · 04/12/2010 21:08

Not sure he would like the abuse, bullying, namecalling and bad language though (coming from those touting equality, diversity, tolerance and kindness).

cupcakebakerer · 04/12/2010 21:11

And Pagwatch (in my opinion) you really need to widen your vocabulary and not feel the need to resort to base level to communicate your feelings.

pagwatch · 04/12/2010 21:20

I know a word or three. I can wax lyrical about the beauty of a soft summer morn with the best of them..but if someone joins a thread,populated with the parents of severely disabled children and thinks it is appropriate to talk about entitlement and scroungers..well cunt tends to spring to mind.

If anyone wants to debate the tax burden created by the benefit system then go start one and I will join and discuss.

But if you join a thread about putting people on benefits in the stocks and then pretend that you were seeking reasonable and rational discourse, well i will tend to view that as disingenuous at best.

pagwatch · 04/12/2010 21:22

Are some of those words alright?
Do they pass muster?

StarlightMcKenzie · 04/12/2010 21:22

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GotArt · 04/12/2010 21:23

ExpatScot I don't hate my sister. What I hate is that recently I've just found out how much lying she has been doing to me as of late. She just told about $1000 + worth of merchandise she's bought for her two children, other sister and mother. Then she proceeded to tell me how unfair it was that they don't get gifts for the DC's in their Xmas food hamper. If they didn't buy the new playstation, they wouldn't have to get the food hamper. She boasted that getting the food hamper means they can buy more booze for Xmas and NY's and have a great party. This has gone on for the last few years, but only now have I found out from the other sister, who busts her own ass in a job that she doesn't like but knows that that is what you must do to get ahead sometimes and make a life for yourself. The last few years, come January, I'm wiring her money to get her through the month, which is only due to the massive spending they do at Christmas. Throughout the year for the last few years, she has rung me for $100's of dollars to get asthma medicine for her son and her heat and hydro bill, all of which I send because one helps family out. DH and I don't have loads of money to spread around as we have our own family to support. The medicine, I've just found out, has always been covered by her welfare and heat and hydro is included in her rent, which comes directly off the top of their cheque every month to the co-op and therefore, doesn't even get a heat and hydro bill. My father stopped giving her money because he died and my other sister stopped because, living in the same city, she knew what the money was really being spent on. Her and her DP are fully capable of working but won't work because of a whole host of reasons, from 'I don't want to stand for 4 hours as a cashier' to 'the debit card machines are too complicated to use' to 'I don't want to wear a uniform' to 'I don't want to stare a computer screen all day or talk to people'. They both have a grade nine education. She won't get her highschool equivalency because it 'just sounds like too much work'. They are both 31 years of age. Both her children are in school, 10 and 12 years of age and when I ask what she does all day, she tells me she cleans and watches tv. Once a month they fill in a form and list where they have handed out resumes to but she openly admitted that they just open the phonebook and right in stuff, that they've never sent out any, ever because she 'hates how much walking she has to do'. I think I have every right to be fucking pissed off at her right now, especially when I see my DH work 12-15 hour days 5-6 days a week, on his feet. I busted my ass working shite jobs to pay for my degrees and bills so I wouldn't be burdened with student loans when I finished and so I could make a better life for my family. DH and I are making the same amount of money as they are but because they are on welfare they get a nice 3 bedroom townhouse with full basement and yard at $800 a month, heat, hydro and cable included, while DH and I are living in a basement flat that is the same size as her fucking living room for $1000 a month, nothing included. DD's room is so small, it cannot fit a queen size bed in and doesn't have a window. We are living within our means and she, clear to me now, isn't and I'm sending our meagre bits of money at the end of my month to her; they are ripping off a system that is there to help people in need; she and her partner are simple fucking lazy asses. I didn't imply at all there were swathes of people doing this, but they are out there and having lived in London pretty extensively as well as Canada, both systems could use a sweeping reform of the social system to ensure that the individuals and family's that need the support get it without hassle.

LifeForRent · 04/12/2010 21:40

Number one-I am not a troll, you can read my other posts to see that. Number two, I am not cake baking woman, I don't agree with some of her views (IE: People on certain benefits should get this allowance-because I don't believe they do).

And for those of you who have nothing better to do than to sit at home all day long and thing of nasty words to say, I'M NOT hankering after your £10, I don't bloody want it, however if the Govt stopped handing out pocket money in December we'd (the country) save £60,000 000. For those of who are insistent on using the NHS that might come in handy. Luckily for you, some of us go private to speed up waiting lists for some of you.

I'm not ill educated either to whoever suggested I was. I actually get off my backside and work.

And for those of who insist on claiming DLA and those who cannot get dressed for one reason or another, what's to stop you from working from home?

StarlightMcKenzie · 04/12/2010 21:45

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pagwatch · 04/12/2010 21:46

Lol at using private health care to speed it up for every one else.

I don't claim any benefits. I have no £10 to give you.
Although I did claim child benefit for my first two dcs, but not for dd.

Did anyone answer my about whether all those worried about the cost of benefits claimed child benefit?

pagwatch · 04/12/2010 21:49

Past life.. You do realise most people on this thread on household where dal is claimed are claiming it on behalf of severely disabled children.
Should the children be manning up and getting a job?

Do you claim, have you claimed child benefit?

pagwatch · 04/12/2010 21:50

Past life?
that should be psssst

My iPad is annoying. Makes twat into tat and makes 'ooh into pooh.
[sigh]

huddspur · 04/12/2010 21:53

Are people really questioning whether people with disabilities should be entitled to benefits Hmm

pagwatch · 04/12/2010 21:56

Yes they are indeed. The £10 bonus is apparently the difference between the country being a nirvana of joy and general well being and Armageddon
Staggering isn't it.

StarlightMcKenzie · 04/12/2010 21:57

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2shoesnightmarebeforechristmas · 04/12/2010 21:58

"And for those of who insist on claiming DLA and those who cannot get dressed for one reason or another, what's to stop you from working from home?"

I will tell dd to stop claiming shall I , like fuck.
as for the NHS do you mean the same on that fucked it up so badly she was starved of oxegen and disabled.
you are not only stupid but a very sad person.