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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

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Original poster

forget playpens and reins aibu to wonder about those buggies

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2shoes · 23/11/2010 12:09

where one child is more or less sitting under another, very low to the ground.
saw one today and poor child had no view , it was just looking at the cover of the child up stairs iynwim
why would you put a child there, and has anyone ever forgotton and put shopping on top of the child?

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deliciousdevilwoman · 23/11/2010 12:13

I fucking LOATHE them! Just awful.

kanchan · 23/11/2010 12:13

I don't know why they're so popular...I had a side-by-side double buggy, much nicer for the kids as they can talk to each other and both can see out....but you don't see many of those now

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2shoes · 23/11/2010 12:14

I understand that they are easier to get through doors and stuff, but the underneath child is on the ground nearly and it must be horrid

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newmum001 · 23/11/2010 12:14

I must admit i thought that at first but it's hard enough manouvering a single pram through most shops so really wouldn't fancy a side by side twin pram or one where one child is in front of the other as the length of those would also pose a problem. If i had two children who needed to be in a pram id deffinately get one of the ones your talking about!

PaisleyLeaf · 23/11/2010 12:15

Oh I know. I feel the same way about them.
It always looks like the baby has been stuffed down in the shopping hammock or something.

Elk · 23/11/2010 12:16

I had one and my two used to argue over who got to go in the lower seat!!!

Poogles · 23/11/2010 12:16

We had one and there used to be a fight for the bottom seat for some reason! Think DS found it easier to switch off and go to sleep there!

sims2fan · 23/11/2010 12:20

I can understand that they must be useful as it's a bit like just having a normal sized pushchair to manoeuvre around, but I do feel sorry for the child in the lower seat. My mum said she once saw one where the toddler had been put in the bottom with a baby on the top. The toddler was sticking his head out so he could see where he was going and as the buggy was pushed through a doorway he whacked his head on the frame. Of course he cried, then the mum told him off for sticking his head out! Can't say I blame him for doing that though! Must be pretty boring just seeing the underneath of another buggy seat all the time.

PaisleyLeaf · 23/11/2010 12:23

Yes, boring. I'd thought there was quite a strong feeling from a lot of people to have young babies in prams so that they are face to face with their mother for interaction. And at least babies in forward facing buggies get to take in the world around them and have interaction with friendly little old ladies etc. But these?....

mowbraygirl · 23/11/2010 12:23

I think they are dreadful poor baby stuck underneath. About two weeks ago whilst out shopping saw a mum with one with what looked a fairly new baby in the bottom bit stood chatting outside a shop. Someone with a fairly large dog came along and was also chatting to he friend next thing I saw dog lifted his leg against pram wheel and baby got sprayed. It made me feel quite ill.

OopsDoneItAgain · 23/11/2010 12:24

They are fab. Easy to manouvere and size Is an issue with buggies, lets face it. The narrower the better as far as Im concerned.

My DCs never minded being 'under', could see plenty out the side. To be fair not many people leave their DC in a buggy all day...so time spent staring at the back of their siblings seat is not likely to be that much in the scheme of things.

OopsDoneItAgain · 23/11/2010 12:27

Peeing dog - yuck! Not really the buggy's fault tho!!

On a similar note I once saw a toddler in one of those trendy high up buggies get sprayed by a lion at the local zoo! The mother jumped round the back of the buggy to avoid getting sprayed herself, rather than grabbing hte buggy and child and moving. Nice touch, mum! (Sorry, off subject now!!)

RiverOfSleep · 23/11/2010 12:27

We had one and it was great. DCs both loved it. DC2 was a very happy baby in the underneath, and we could go on the bus and so on.

LaWeaselMys · 23/11/2010 12:35

Mostly people gave those for a toddler and a baby though. By the time the baby cares they can't see the older one is walking most of the time and younger can go up front.

Size wise they are genius and a lot of the time size and folding is the major factor, not what might be nice.

switchtvoffdosomelessboring · 23/11/2010 12:42

The ones with a lower seat are generally for folks who have close siblings and usually the older toddler wants to walk so the younger baby can sit in the main seat but if the toddler is tired you have the option to get them both in the buggy.

As a mum of twins you really don't want to have a side by side or a long tandem buggy if you can avoid it. It is impossible to get into many shops, public transport or even doors are a pita.

APixieInMyTea · 23/11/2010 12:51

I hate them and went up and over my budget for a double pram so I didn't have to have one.

There are loads of them where I live and never have I seen a happy child sat in one.

I don't like it the other way either with the newborn stuck in that little cave with the toddler sat on top. How dangerous does that look,

I love my double and get loads of stares in town, especially by those with the p&t type prams.

bruffin · 23/11/2010 13:05

The p&t had a lot of safety issues with it, I don't think they are designed with children in mind.

Firawla · 23/11/2010 13:12

oh fgs @ comments like seen loads and never seen a happy child in them, if the children in your area are that depressed i dont think it is just down to the buggy!! we have loads round here too, and i also have one, and my children are quite happy in it thank u.
my toddler always wants to go in the underneath/back, and baby also doesnt mind the back he sleeps better in the back than the front but i normally have him in the front so he can see
they are very good for busy areas, small houses, going on buses, going on the tube (i dont think its possible to get those very long double buggies down an escalator even? but p&t u can)
the dog weeing on the child i think is more down to poor parental supervision than the buggies fault
as for face to face the children are face to face in this they can look up and see their mum pushing them, i really dont see the issue

Gargula · 23/11/2010 13:14

I got one of these for when i had my DD. But she utterly loathed it from the start so I had to get another where she can face me and my toddler is out in front. It's built like a chuffing tank though.
I must admit I thought it would be great until I saw a thread on MN about this a little while ago saying the same thing - I didn't really like it after that. I am easily swayed though!

rattling · 23/11/2010 13:17

Well, just thinking of getting one for my toddler twins. Can't face anymore manhandling the double round shops/bins/on narrow pavements. And side by side's have very narrow seat - I have to shoehorn them in if in full wet weather gear. One won't let me put the rain cover on so would stay dry underneath at least.

Have to admit I wouldn't have wanted it when they took all their naps in the pram and I was out walking for hours. But now I just need transport to safe areas to release them.

I realised it might be the best plan after meeting a friend with 2 boys about a year apart in age - the older one was only too happy to fling himself into the underneath seat when he couldn't be bothered to walk anymore.

chibi · 23/11/2010 13:22

they obviously put the child there because they hate them, and this way they can show it without attracting the attentions of nosy social workers

89.4% of injuries to babies/children occurred when parents using these buggies mistook them for a parcel shelf and dumped heavy shopping on them

me, i would never use such a disgusting thing

my children travel in a dog crate i have fixed to a small wagon, tis economical, roomy, safe and dare i say it chic

watch for us when we are out and about!

TattyDevine · 23/11/2010 13:27

I dont have one but I have to say I think there is probably no ideal double buggy. Tandems like the Phil & Ted do look boring/uncomfy/unsafe depending on who is in it, doubles are wide and heavy, lets face it kids are a PITA in general and take up far too much space.

I can't wait till I'm past the nappies / pushchair / millions of toys phase (roll on 2030!)

4andnotout · 23/11/2010 13:28

I have one and its been a great help transporting dd's 3&4. They needed a double for a long while as there is 13 months between them, this was the best option for us. I can't fit a side by side on our narrow pavements, it's easy to manoeuvre and is still in use as a single now that dd3 is 3 and walks everywhere.

truffleshuffle · 23/11/2010 13:29

OMG has the OP or any of the people slagging these prams off had to cope with pushing a double buggy through doorways etc.
I have one and have used it for all 3 DC's.
Of course they are safe, they couldn't sell them if they weren't.
And my toddler is very happy say on the bottom seat....I live in a rural area so car fumes etc not an issue.
has the OP nothing better to moan about??

APixieInMyTea · 23/11/2010 13:29

firawla I never said all children are unhappy in them, just the one's I've seen.

I do live in a rather depressing city though so maybe it's just that.

Still don't like them though.

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