forget playpens and reins aibu to wonder about those buggies

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where one child is more or less sitting under another, very low to the ground.
saw one today and poor child had no view , it was just looking at the cover of the child up stairs iynwim
why would you put a child there, and has anyone ever forgotton and put shopping on top of the child?

re fitness: you will quickly get calves like rocks if you attempt to push a loaded double up a hill often enough.

the same applies for carrying 2 littlies about your person.

damn i love my car.

my sling only hurts when i try to hold hand with todler or use pushchair with it (putting me off centre).

which is why i got peed of with DH when he asked for my help with ds whilst i was sling carrying DD2. twat (what he can't manage one toddler???). but that's an AIBU all of its own...

Fair enough Kungfupannda, I shall try to be less dogmatic in the future :)

i have a dd 2yrs and a ds 2 months.
i have two slings, an rs and a wraparound.
i have a rear facing pram,and i have a p&t.
they are all useful in different situations and i wouldnt be without anyone of them.
it doesnt mean im ignorant,it just means im not going to make my life harder by only using slings.
there are days i would not leave the house if it were not for the p&t.i never wanted one,but it has saved my sanity on many occasions.

you should watch
made me and dd giggle!

NormalityBites - I think you are evangelical rather than dogmatic. The use of slings is obviously something you feel very passionately about.

I am at the insinuation that if you use a P&T you are a bad parent. Wonder how many people suggesting that have just stuck their baby in a maclaren and walked round all day - child gets zero parent interaction slumped in one of those. Actually looking round at people's legs all day is not that fascinating either.
I had a P&T for 8 months and found it very useful but as soon as the older one was old enough to use buggy board full time I sold it and went back to a parent-facing pushchair.
At the end of the day buggies are just a means of getting kids from place to place and if your child is in it for long stretches that is the problem - not the buggy you choose.

chibi

I had a P&T for 9 months and it was the best option on the market for me. Light and easily manouverable and I didn't have to fold it to get it through my front door. The child underneath does not mind being there and has plenty to see at the sides.

Can I just pause and ask why somebody upthread said being able to use an escalator is a bonus???

You take a pram, with kids in it, on an escalator???

I did'nt think you were allowed prams on escalators

You aren't. Some people ignore that, and balance a small buggy with half the wheels hanging in mid air, but i have never seen anyone do it with anything bigger.

I'd be terrified.

found another bad thing about my one, baby kicks toddler in the back through the seat :)

I love my P&T pushchair.Very useful.Only thing I hate is when I have ds2 in the back part and ds1 isn't with me and people think I'm the local mad woman pushing a pram around with what 'appears' to have no children in

In theory you aren't allowed pushchairs on escalators but since there aren't any escalator police there to stop you lots of people do. (it's like the sign saying that you have to carry under 5s through the ticket barriers - WTF?)
I personally didn't - that was DH's job (stronger upper body).

Ah yes forgot about the barriers, I did'nt see the sign and made DS then aged 3 rush throuh with me to which the inspector woman asked me if a could read and was I not interested in my sons safety as he could have been jammed in...

Not sure which barriers she was looking at but the ones I saw could'nt jam you in them.

I have only used a P&T with a friends children in and I did'nt like it would much rather a side by side but then I used that for my sisters (massive twin emmaljunga) and loved it so much I asked my mum to buy me the single version for DS :o

Each to their own I can see how they can be useful but would'nt use one all the time IYSWIM but then I have'nt had to make that choice so heyho never say nebver.

Although I have always wondered if the child in the main seat farts does the child in the shopping basket get trapped with it? :o