To really hate The Beatles?

[notnowbernard]

I find them a bit like a secret I've not been let in on

Find the music tres dull

I get the cultural significance etc but fucking hell, it's been 40-odd years...

The Beatles were indescribably brilliant.

They are as big a part of me a my own family in many ways. I grew up listening to them and not a week goes by when one of their albums goes on.

Have X Factor folk hijacked and spolit?
Another reason I am glad I have never watched what sounds like utter dross.

Macca is now appalling thoguh and beyond parody with his aubergine hair and dreadful daughter with a face like a smacked arse. Like she got where she is through her talen.

I adore The Beatles- they are by far my favourite band. I don't listen to any new music- in my opinion it's absolute bollocks.

That's a wee bit sweeping there Penny.

I agree with you, Penny. (On the whole).

Paul McCartney, a genius and an excellent song writer... or perhaps not.

Exhibit a) Dance Tonight

Everybody's gonna dance tonight
Everybody's gonna feel alright
Everybody's gonna dance around tonight

Everybody's gonna dance around
Everybody's gonna hit the ground
Everybody's gonna dance around tonight

(Chorus)
Well you can come on to my place if you want to
You can do anything you want to do

Everybody's gonna dance tonight
Everybody's gonna feel alright
Everybody's gonna dance around tonight

(Whistling)

Well you can come on to my place if you want to
You can do anything you want to do

Everybody's gonna stamp their feet
Everybody's gonna feel the beat
Everybody's wanna dance around tonight

(Bridge)

Everybody's gonna dance tonight
Everybody's gonna feel alright
Everybody's gonna dance around tonight

Everybody's gonna jump and shout
Everybody's gonna sing it out
Everybody's gonna dance around tonight

Well you can come on to my place if you want to
You can do anything you want to do

Everybody's gonna dance tonight
Everybody's gonna feel alright
Everybody's gonna dance around tonight
Everybody's gonna dance around tonight
Everybody's gonna feel alright tonight

Yabu and yet yanbu.

They did produce some fabulous music. No doubt about that. And this music has stood the test of time. As songwriters Lennon and McCartney were/are genuises.

But people are not content with just saying that, though, oh no. They have to be brilliant musicians, too and have also changed the world. . Maybe a part in changing the world, yes, but I think there was a whole lot of other stuff going on in the 1960's that played an equal part.

Also, from a musical viewpoint, none of them were great. George Harrison was a good-but not brilliant guitarist, Ringo is a very good drummer but not up there with Carl Palmer or Buddy Rich. Lennon was an OK guitarist and singer. And McCartney a good -but not ace- bassist and singer- he is no Chris Squire.

So YABU and yet YANBU. If anyone wants to start a thread about how crap a band is, I will add a million posts about how much I hate the Rolling Stones and their peculiar affectation on American blues music.
I fucking hate them.

I don't like the Beatles either. They did some tuneful stuff, fair do's, but their impact on the culture of the time was a bad one imo; though to be fair that's more due to the marketing machine that surrounded them, than to the members themselves (all that psychedelic bollocks and "harmless" mind-altering substances, it was just silly! Look at the trousers ffs!). And if they really influenced music so much (a claim I don't trust - there was a lot of good, innovative stuff around in the late 50s/early 60s), who's to say it wouldn't have gone in a better direction? We just don't know.

The expression "the Fab Four" makes my teeth itch, couldn't really tell you why.

ps YANBU because music is a matter of taste, not reason. You and I don't like 'em. Others do. It's not a case of right or wrong.

CarmenSanDiego I saw the first line of your post and thought: fuck me, that's a first, a post by CSD I actually disagree with

thank you for the rest

They did influence music. Without all that psychedelia there would be no wonderful progressive rock music.

I'll get me coat.

I was hoping nobody would bring up that "everybody's gunna dance" song. It's hard to defend

when ds was 9, for his birthday we took him to Decathlon in the car to buy a bike. since it was a surprise, we blindfolded him and played "Magical Mystery Tour" 11 times non stop

it was a bit Men Who Start At Goats, perhaps- but it worked for us

The only really good thing about the Beatles is that they paved the way for........The Rutles. Brilliant. The most excellent piss take

I do find all the fawning that goes on around Sir Paul a bit . I'm afraid Wings and all that followed including that ghastly Frog Song were pretty awful.

I was only quite young but The Frog Song made me nail my colours firmly to the Lennon mast. I have never ever forgotten it

[solemn]

and the Rutles were absofuckinglutely FABULOUS

this thread is kind of odd, surely people aren't disputing the effect the beatles had on popular music as we know it?

actually though imo it's pretty shite now, going back to how it was before their influence. squeaky clean shite

SHJ - Aha a fellow Rutles fan! I do sometimes post under the name BarringtonWomble (Rutles homage)

bollocks Bob- I wish had thought of that

when very young I managed to confuse the Beatles with the Rutles. I thought it was a Proper Documentary

I think they're infinatley better. Actually I retract my description of them as a 'piss take'; pastiche is def the word I meant.

"actually though imo it's pretty shite now, going back to how it was before their influence. squeaky clean shite"

It really wasn't. Even the music produced by the artists known for being squeaky clean wasn't always.

I'm not convinced the Beatles effect is as massive as is widely believed.

Elvis recorded things like Jailhouse rock and All Shook Up in 1957. The Beatles didn't even form until 1960. Motown records were founded before the Beatles and Diana Ross and the Supremes were going strong. The 50s had Chuck Berry (a huge influence on The Beatles), Little Richard and rock and roll. There was a strong music scene at the time in America - in fact several different music scenes. The Beatles just gave the UK a bit of a kick.

The Beatles pioneered some recording techniques like double-tracking (although it was one of their techies that figured it out - not any of the 'fab four') but plenty of them were evolutions, i.e. their bass sound was originally lifted from Wilson Pickett (who was hardly squeaky clean.)

Without the Beatles, music would have still evolved. There might have been less focus on manufactured boy bands though which I struggle to see as a bad thing.

John Lennon was interesting. I liked the performance arty stuff and politics he brought to the table. But their 'influence'? Overstated imo.

I Loved the Beatles, they helped bring British bands to global attention and were part of what made England so cool on the sixties. When I listen to their old stuff now I enjoy it but there are other bands from that time whose work still seems relevant today.

The Beatles were fabulous with a few blips. I'm not so keen on Thumbs Up and his solo stuff which is crap. Even Wings did a couple of corkers though.
Listen to 'John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band'. What an album.