To really hate The Beatles?

[notnowbernard]

I find them a bit like a secret I've not been let in on

Find the music tres dull

I get the cultural significance etc but fucking hell, it's been 40-odd years...

[giveitago]

Oh yeah - love elvis - but the beatles were later and whole different ball game. I think they were great. Was never that keen on rock n roll.

[CarmenSanDiego]

Not comparing Elvis with the Beatles, just pointing out that they didn't come out of the blue and revolutionise music. They were part of a much wider evolution and all the comments about the 50s being squeaky clean or there being no good music until the Beatles showed up or there being no pop music without them are all nonsense. Elvis and a load of other artists and groups are the evidence.

[tillywee]

YANBU...overrated band, I guess I just don't get them

[giveitago]

I think sinatra once said the the best love song ever was 'something' which was george harrison.

[Nancy66]

The Beatles were amazing.

The fact that not a single one of the X Factor lot could make one of their songs sound half decent is testament to how skilful the songwriting, melodies and beat is - not a sure sign of how shit they were.

[giveitago]

Still find it odd that people try to compare elvis with beatles. Why do they do that?

[Kaloki]

Quite carmensandiego.

[giveitago]

I like - but then they were many years ago - but shit - nice to hear songs that have some grammar going on eh?

[donkeyderby]

The Beatles were fabulous with a few blips. I'm not so keen on Thumbs Up and his solo stuff which is crap. Even Wings did a couple of corkers though.
Listen to 'John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band'. What an album.

[sue52]

I Loved the Beatles, they helped bring British bands to global attention and were part of what made England so cool on the sixties. When I listen to their old stuff now I enjoy it but there are other bands from that time whose work still seems relevant today.

[CarmenSanDiego]

I'm not convinced the Beatles effect is as massive as is widely believed.

Elvis recorded things like Jailhouse rock and All Shook Up in 1957. The Beatles didn't even form until 1960. Motown records were founded before the Beatles and Diana Ross and the Supremes were going strong. The 50s had Chuck Berry (a huge influence on The Beatles), Little Richard and rock and roll. There was a strong music scene at the time in America - in fact several different music scenes. The Beatles just gave the UK a bit of a kick.

The Beatles pioneered some recording techniques like double-tracking (although it was one of their techies that figured it out - not any of the 'fab four') but plenty of them were evolutions, i.e. their bass sound was originally lifted from Wilson Pickett (who was hardly squeaky clean.)

Without the Beatles, music would have still evolved. There might have been less focus on manufactured boy bands though which I struggle to see as a bad thing.

John Lennon was interesting. I liked the performance arty stuff and politics he brought to the table. But their 'influence'? Overstated imo.

[Kaloki]

"actually though imo it's pretty shite now, going back to how it was before their influence. squeaky clean shite"

It really wasn't. Even the music produced by the artists known for being squeaky clean wasn't always.

[BendyBob]

I think they're infinatley better. Actually I retract my description of them as a 'piss take'; pastiche is def the word I meant.

[SpringHeeledJack]

bollocks Bob- I wish had thought of that



when very young I managed to confuse the Beatles with the Rutles. I thought it was a Proper Documentary

[BendyBob]

SHJ - Aha a fellow Rutles fan! I do sometimes post under the name BarringtonWomble (Rutles homage)

[southeastastra]

this thread is kind of odd, surely people aren't disputing the effect the beatles had on popular music as we know it?

actually though imo it's pretty shite now, going back to how it was before their influence. squeaky clean shite

[SpringHeeledJack]

and the Rutles were absofuckinglutely FABULOUS

[SpringHeeledJack]

I was only quite young but The Frog Song made me nail my colours firmly to the Lennon mast. I have never ever forgotten it

[solemn]

[BendyBob]

The only really good thing about the Beatles is that they paved the way for........The Rutles. Brilliant. The most excellent piss take

I do find all the fawning that goes on around Sir Paul a bit . I'm afraid Wings and all that followed including that ghastly Frog Song were pretty awful.

[SpringHeeledJack]

when ds was 9, for his birthday we took him to Decathlon in the car to buy a bike. since it was a surprise, we blindfolded him and played "Magical Mystery Tour" 11 times non stop

it was a bit Men Who Start At Goats, perhaps- but it worked for us

[SuePurblybiltByElves]

I was hoping nobody would bring up that "everybody's gunna dance" song. It's hard to defend

[CarmenSanDiego]

[marantha]

I'll get me coat.

[marantha]

They did influence music. Without all that psychedelia there would be no wonderful progressive rock music.