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To think that this is political correctness gone mad???!!!

268 replies

rdmommy · 16/11/2010 10:44

elc have removed the pig from the happy land farm set as it may offend some religious groups!- i.e muslim and jewish. so am i wrong to suggest that maybe we should not have farm sets because it could offend veggies, the cows could offend hindus and maybe the sheep could offend the welsh???

this is bloody stupid... our town renamed christmas as fucking winterval!!!!!

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AnnieLobeseder · 16/11/2010 21:07

Spot the posters who haven't read past the first post...

Cakeypie1 · 16/11/2010 21:07

To add, I have had my daughter's information removed from the ELC birthday club and will now shop elsewhere. I don't want her development and education twisted in this way. If they can be this pathetic to pander this way, then what else might they do so as not to offend the 'minority'! I am disgusted.

GrimmaTheNome · 16/11/2010 21:08

What a load of utter bullshit.

Oddly enough they never include that in their farm sets.

Desiderata · 16/11/2010 21:09

Nor bullshit at all, bonnie. We're all racist.

CommanderDrool · 16/11/2010 21:09
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beebuzzer · 16/11/2010 21:15

Bloody ridiculous. What is this country coming to? The Jewish side of my family would be in hysterics reading this!

MonkeySee · 16/11/2010 21:18

ELC most non-pc toy shop since woolworths

Desiderata · 16/11/2010 21:19

Well, non PC is a good thing.

GrimmaTheNome · 16/11/2010 21:20

I'm very partial to damson myself.

petelly · 16/11/2010 21:22

Laughing at the references to 'festivus'. Grin

I don't know any other Seinfeld fans in the UK (apart from dh!) - glad that MN has shown me that all is not lost. Smile

[going to petition the council for a festivus pole in the name of inclusivity]

SparklingExplosionGoldBrass · 16/11/2010 21:32

It's so long since I had a scone that I can't remember which way round the jam and cream go.
But I do remember boggling utterly at one of the, um, maybe less intellectual mums at DS' school last year, ranting about how awful it was that 'they' had banned nativity plays.
As we were making our way out of the hall where we had just watch all our DC performing 'Whoopsadaisy Angel'... I did look at her blankly and say 'But what was that then?' and got an equally blank look in reply so I have no idea which bit of the circuitry between her brain and mouth she'd actually fried that day.

mumeeee · 16/11/2010 21:34

YANBU. Apparently The Whtie Hous has a holiday tree instead of a Christmas Tree. Last year the dighn on the way into our town was changedd from Merry Christmas to Happy Winterland

tethersend · 16/11/2010 21:36

On the plus side, the Daily Mail seem to have united Jews and Muslims everywhere in a chorus of "Eh?!".

Perhaps next they could concentrate their efforts on the middle east?

AbsofCroissant · 16/11/2010 21:38

IMO, the jam should be some kind of berry. I don't think say, apricot, would work. It's just crazy.

And people are still coming on and posting without having read the rest ...

kingbeat23 · 16/11/2010 21:40

ah ha ha ha tethers Grin

kingbeat23 · 16/11/2010 21:44

definately a jam with a dark fruit - damson, raspberry or strawberry.....um, i think i might make scones tomorrow.

DM headline news - Today branches of supermarkets sold out of clotted cream and scones in frenzied scenes up and down the country....

nannygoatgruff · 16/11/2010 21:45

rdmommy - I remember the Winterval episode.

It certainly is not urban myth, although maybe council suggested renaming the Christmas lights and stuff in city centre as Winterval lights, but were shouted down.

AnnieLobeseder · 16/11/2010 21:50

I am confused as to how seriously to take cakeypie's ranting. Perhaps she's here on hols from Netmums.....?

MillyR · 16/11/2010 21:58

Perhaps a day will come when I read one of these threads about how political correctness has gone mad and find to my surprise that indeed, political correctness has gone mad.

That day is not today.

Pig toys remain widely available, as do church services on Christmas day.

biscuitsandbandages · 16/11/2010 21:59

This thread and story is hilarious!

We are Muslim, celebrating eid today so just sent sugar hyped over presented and very tired kids to bed. There was a pig in the farmset my son got for eid...... and he is going to be a shepherd in the nativity play at Christmas although we don't celebrate Christmas as we have no more problem with him acting in that play than any other.

Winterval! Wtf?! Lol!

(think I've had too much sugar too as don't know what else to say! :) )

BonniePrinceBilly · 16/11/2010 22:08

IT FUCKING IS AN URBAN MYTH! Nobody, other than Cromwell, has ever banned Christmas, or renamed it Winterval or anything else. If you really believe this to be true even after it has repeatedly been exposed as a lie, you are an utter moron.

hatwoman · 16/11/2010 22:22

Grin at MillyR - I think that too. Everytime I hear it I wonder if maybe, this time, there could be something in it.Still waiting.

EightiesChick · 16/11/2010 22:59

OK, more info from this article about the urban myth of Winterval 'replacing' Christmas:

Perhaps the most notorious of the anti-Christmas rebrandings is Winterval, in Birmingham, and when you telephone the Birmingham city council press office to ask about it, you are met first of all with a silence that might seasonably be described as frosty. "We get this every year," a press officer sighs, eventually. "It just depends how many rogue journalists you get in any given year. We tell them it's bollocks, but it doesn't seem to make much difference."

According to an official statement from the council, Winterval - which ran in 1997 and 1998, and never since - was a promotional campaign to drive business into Birmingham's newly regenerated town centre. It began in early November and finished in January. During the part of that period traditionally celebrated as Christmas, "there was a banner saying Merry Christmas across the front of the council house, Christmas lights, Christmas trees in the main civil squares, regular carol-singing sessions by school choirs, and the Lord Mayor sent a Christmas card with a traditional Christmas scene wishing everyone a Merry Christmas".

None of that, though, was enough to prevent a protest movement at the time, whose members included the then Bishop of Birmingham, Mark Santer, as well as two members of UB40. Sensing a never-to-be-repeated public-relations opportunity, tourism staff at Solihull council invited Birmingham residents in search of a traditional Christmas to travel there instead. And the leader of the anti-Winterval campaign, Ken White, fulfilled a key requirement of all such disputes: the people of Birmingham, he declared, were the victims of "political correctness gone mad".

So, some key facts:

  • it was tried out in 1997 and 1998 then dropped
  • it didn't replace Christmas but instead tried to feature Christmas as part of a larger branding exercise to bring in shoppers
  • no ban of anything Christmas-related EVER formed part of this.

Now, please give it a rest...

And as for ELC being too politically correct, I'll believe that when all their toy washing machines, toy cookers etc are blue only instead of pink only.

A1980 · 16/11/2010 23:19

YANBU

What intelligent people normally do is not to buy the fucking toy if they don't like it.

That would be too simple.

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