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to be annoyed with dp for blowing £12k?

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whethergirl · 16/11/2010 09:54

DP is just so irresponsible with finances and I'm not exactly a whizz at this sort of stuff myself but have more respect towards money.

We are trying to make plans to live together. He inherited a house out in the country and also about £20k. He spent some of that before I met him and had 12k left. The idea is to sell his house, and together with his savings, put it towards a new home together.

He has problems opening letters. So he has piles of unopened letters at his place, which I've offered to help with. As a result, he has bills/arrears that he is unaware of until it gets serious.

He is very generous and doesn't care much about money but is, I feel, silly with money. Just splashes it about without thinking. I've even felt annoyed when he's bought me unnecessary presents that I won't even use.

He has now just told me that he doesn't have the 12k anymore. He has never told me he's been spending that money. It's all gone on takeaways, nights out (with me), taking our kids out, eating out, guitars, books, etc. I have made comments before, like "Are you sure you can afford this?" and telling him we don't need to get a takeaway every week and it doesn't feel like a treat when we do.

He has basically spent it on having a good time and ignoring bills, most of it with me, but I told him that's not my responsibilty and he shouldn't have been spending his savings.

I'm angry because that money was for our future. I told him it's his money and ultimately he can do what he wants. But that I can't plan a future with him if he is going to be this irresponsible with money. I'm not saying I would end our relationship because of it, (I love him). But I've lived with a boyfriend who was irresponsible with money before, and it also becomes my headache and I end up even worse off than if I was on my own.

He's really upset that I'm annoyed with him. Am I being too harsh?

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30andMerkin · 16/11/2010 12:17

"Tell me what i have to do to make it right."

Ok, so he's putting the responsibility onto you rather than taking it himsel, but also giving you the chance to set some new deal-breakers.

Figure out what you think is most important, agree some new rules together, then see if you can both stick to it!

MmeLindt · 16/11/2010 12:18

Hmm, just read his age. Not sure if he can change - and did I understand that his family are all like that?

I would say that to make it up to you he has to prove that he is willing to make the effort. To budget, to lay his finances on the line and tell you everything - no holding back.

And that he has to take responsibility for his own life, not expect you to do it for him.

whethergirl · 16/11/2010 12:19

It's a nice sentiment and not a bad attitude, but is it a bit self indulgent do you think? Like I'm supposed to go, "there, there, don't worry, you're not bad and it'll all turn out alright."

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Remotew · 16/11/2010 12:19

You need him to put all his cards on the table, debts, income, realistic house valuation. If you are going to live together then realise you might have to get yourself a decent job!

MmeLindt · 16/11/2010 12:20

And I agree with 30andMerkin

He is still putting the onus on YOU - tell him how to make it right.

He needs to sort it out, not blame others (his family, circumstances, not being good with money).

I am hopeless with money but have to restrain myself because at the end of the month, the kids have to eat.

mjinhiding · 16/11/2010 12:20

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whethergirl · 16/11/2010 12:27

mjinhiding, sorry it was me that was badly wording my post, I was totally agreeing with you re giving up a lot as a single parent.

And I agree, he is putting the onus on me. And acting like a victim. I'm not normally as harsh as this but I think the more sympathy and support I give him the worse he gets. I think it's time for tough love.

I've suffered depression before so feel for him and what he's going through. He has gone on ad's and on waiting list for counselling. Thing is, when he is with me, he is fine and very very happy. Only gets low when he goes back to his home on his own. I told him he can't depend on me for his happiness.

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whethergirl · 16/11/2010 12:30

mjinhiding - I know he has a lot on and I've done my best to support him. And i know we're all different but can't help thinking about my dad - he went bankrupt, lost everything, his wife, his home, his business. He got himself a council flat, worked two jobs - day and night shifts and saved every penny. He is now back on track with his own business. This is the kind of attitude I admire!

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 16/11/2010 12:34

exH was shite with money - he would improve for short periods.......and then he'd go and fuck it up again. Basically once he felt things were "in control" aain he'd see that as his cue to spend stupidly again.

CAB, Welfare rights, near repossession of the house (still hanging over his head) - never made a real difference.

TBH it was hell, not knowing when he was going start stupid spending again and fuck it all up.

I also used to be shit with money - but after dodgy times years back learned to keep them under control.

I wouldn't want to be moving in with him, not until he'd proved over a LONG period (not 6 months, at least 12 months+) that he could keep control of his finances.

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 16/11/2010 12:35

and yes - I agreee that you have to step back and let him deal with it, so long as he has someone that will step in an "rescue" him he'll keep on doing it.

oranges · 16/11/2010 12:36

Can I ask how old you are? DOn't see why you should be taking responsibility for helping a 50 year old man deal with money, tbh.

Spacehoppa · 16/11/2010 12:38

It is his money but I can understand you being frstrated by his irresponsibility. You need to try and manage money jointly if you are to have a future togeher

whethergirl · 16/11/2010 13:03

oranges - I am 38.
I lived with a boyfriend many years ago, in my 20's, and he was so irresponsibile, never got a proper job and I ended up paying for everything. I vowed NEVER to be in that position again! Funny cos now that same boyfriend, has apparently doing very well with his own business!

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ENormaSnob · 16/11/2010 13:25

Did I read correctly that you have been together less than I year?

Are you sure that there even was 12k and a house and job? Is it possible he is one if those conmen that live in fantasy land?

Otoh I would be very reluctant to put such a large amount into a house with someone who wasn't putting anything in. I think it would be very unwise especially as you haven't been together long.

whethergirl · 16/11/2010 13:32

Yes, we've been together for almost a year. It's been quite an intense, fast moving relationship.

I think there was probably £12k at some point! I know he has a house because his ds is living there at the mo, also I phone him at work a lot and spoken with this boss. He is not a conman - but I think he does live in a bit of a fantasy land. He trusts me completely, but I certainly wouldn't sign away a whole house (which he has offered - to put the house in my name) esp if I had two kids!

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ENormaSnob · 16/11/2010 13:45

Less than a year really isn't long.

Perhaps he has doubts about putting the money into a house that you will have claim over despite you putting nothing in.

I am not trying to be harsh op, just looking from a different angle.

AnyFucker · 16/11/2010 14:02

I just couldn't be arsed to look after a foolish, immature man like this. He is 50 ffs, hardly wet behind the ears is he (or shouldn't be...)

You already have a child..do you want to babysit and monitor another one?

You obviously cannot trust a word he says...and he believes his own bullshit.

But then you say you will never split...so you are going to do all this (and more) after he has promised you the world (on very little)

You would be foolish to get yourself tangled financially with this man.

Remotew · 16/11/2010 14:13

If you have only known him a year it may be all bull and the 12K might have been to impress you. Dig around a lot!

AnyFucker · 16/11/2010 14:16

< considers bringing out the well-used AnyFucker gold-plated warning about getting into relationships too quickly, too deeply >

< realises will be wasting my breath >

ENormaSnob · 16/11/2010 14:19

Thought the same af.

Must also agree that a 50 year old who can't manage his finances is not an attractive picture.

LoopyLoops · 16/11/2010 14:23

Hod on a cotton picking moment. He's 50? With two kids? And offered to sign his home away to a woman he has known for a year?

Despite the fact that you may love him, run for the hills. This man is not stable. His priorities are skewed. You will never feel safe and secure, neither will the children involved.

anotherbrickinthewall · 16/11/2010 14:28

I'm in the run for the hills camp. If he's still so financially feckless and economical with the truth at 50, he's not going to change.

AnyFucker · 16/11/2010 14:45

ENorma, am loving your name Grin

capricorn76 · 16/11/2010 14:46

Personally I could not be with a man who was irresponsible with money. Doesn't bode well for the future.

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