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Libyan "stolen" children

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Arthur62 · 06/11/2010 09:45

There seems to be a lot of hype concerning children who are living with their fathers' in Libya. Mothers' are claiming that these children are stolen but surely these children are just simply living with one of their parents. It happens all the time in England when the mother steals the children from the father.

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YouKnowNothingoftheCrunch · 06/11/2010 18:22

There is a handy acronym list on the menu above, Arthur :)

LilQueenie · 06/11/2010 18:23

Ok Im sorry I know its off topic a bit but if there is something that really bugs me its this

We carry them, they have our blood running through their veins,

No actually its not. Babies have their own blood supply not ours. The 2 never meet. A child can have a completely different blood type even from the mother.

Arthur62 · 06/11/2010 18:23

Ahhh, thankyou. :)

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YouKnowNothingoftheCrunch · 06/11/2010 18:27

Lil, were they not talking more metaphorically than literally? I assumed so.

LilQueenie · 06/11/2010 18:31

tbh you may be right but that phrase has never made sense to me when used metaphorically Confused which is probably why it irritates me so much!

YouKnowNothingoftheCrunch · 06/11/2010 18:33

Now I can agree with you lil :). Since only half your DNA will be represented in that blood, the argument would work against anyone (except the biological father). But biology does not a parent make.

CerysM · 06/11/2010 19:26

These men who take their children away from their mothers...do they ever think of how much it will fuck their children up? In fact you could hardly do anything that would fuck them up more. Forever and ever. Will you not have to answer to them one day about how utterly fucking selfish you were?

It's easy to forget these kiddies you 'own', grow up and have their own views

CerysM · 06/11/2010 19:30

And yes, in the vast majority of cases it's not about the father wanting to spend time with the child, it's about revenge, pure and simple. And someone capable of that kind of act should never be left in charge of any child

wobblebobble · 07/11/2010 10:47

I find I am both amused and bemused reading this thread.

I agree with the OP in that children cannot be stolen from either parent as both have or should have equal rights as far as being parents is concerned.

In the case of the Libiyans they have taken the children without consent of the other parent and that is illegal and should be seen as illegal whether the Father or the Mother is the one to do it.......I believe that in this country many woman get away with taking children and keeping children from their fathers under the guise of being lawful, it is no less a crime and should be dealt with as such.

I am amazed to read posts such as mothers should have custody of their children as they have a special bond that fathers cannot understand WTF!! or my favorite "because the breastfed them" LOL

Would these posters advocate taking children away from fathers whose partners have died because the father hasn't got the special bond? Talk about outdated attitudes!

TerryB · 07/11/2010 11:43

Good heavens. I can't believe the outdated statements by some of these mothers who think that they have right to claim they are the better parent because they are women. How narrow minded and primitive to suggest such a thing. My Father was far better a parent to me than my mother ever was and I love him dearly. To suggest that having boobs is the only qualification for being the best is not primeval it is primitive and damaging to society as a hole.

tethersend · 07/11/2010 12:12

wobblebobble and TerryB, I'd like to take the opportunity to be the first to say: Welcome to Mumsnet.

It's good that you both agree on one of your first ever posts. I look forward to your future posts Smile

tethersend · 07/11/2010 12:13

"a hole"

Grin
wobblebobble · 07/11/2010 12:22

Tethersend I have been a member of mumsnet for a long time but hav'nt posted for quite some time and had forgotten my username & password so I re-registered........so sorry to deflate your deduction but I am not a troll LOL
I hope Terry isnt either but who knows on here eh??

TerryB · 07/11/2010 13:13

What the hell do you mean? I watched a program the other night about this and thought it was something I could add to. Who do you think you are? I have no idea who wobble is and don't give a damn either.

CerysM · 07/11/2010 13:17

Just a tad defensive there?

CerysM · 07/11/2010 13:17

Just a tad defensive there?

TerryB · 07/11/2010 13:26

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CerysM · 07/11/2010 13:31

Er....no-one called you an arsehole. But the cap seems to fit

TerryB · 07/11/2010 13:32

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CerysM · 07/11/2010 13:34

Calm down dear, you'll only upset yourself

CerysM · 07/11/2010 13:35

'a hole' was referring to your wrong spelling of 'a whole'

TerryB · 07/11/2010 13:36

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YouKnowNothingoftheCrunch · 07/11/2010 13:37

You've gotten yourself all of a fluster, Terry. Tis just words on a screen :)

Mis-spelled words on a screen.

YouKnowNothingoftheCrunch · 07/11/2010 13:38

Ah to fuck oneself. Takes be back. A shakespearian style witticism of the highest order :o