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To think nurses should be professional!

269 replies

Theincrediblesulk1 · 20/10/2010 21:53

I am so bloody mad! My Nan had a stroke last week, i went to see her today i thought telling the doctors who are looking after her that i have an hereditary thrombophilia, mutation that causes more blood clots, So i went to the nurses station.

The nurse said "hello can i help you?" i said "yes i would like to inform a doctor that i have a hereditary condition that causes blood clots, as my nan has just had a stroke

She sniggered at me!

Aibu to think she should be shot in the head for being such an idiot!!!!

No sorry i lost my cool, AIBU to think nurses should be professional and not laugh at people who are concerned for their relatives, especially when they are attempting to give them relevant medical background?!

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brimfull · 21/10/2010 23:26

notinthemoodfordancing-come on you can't come on thread and not give some sort of proof that you are the nurse in question and expect op to believe you

notinthemoodfordancing · 21/10/2010 23:26

Sort myself out? Yes I will just have a word with one of the ENT surgeons to see if they can remove my larynx.

Theincrediblesulk1 · 21/10/2010 23:27

boooooooooyhooo i understand the work that goes into being a nurse, i know its a thankless job i know its a terribly upsetting job at times! but that is no excuse for how she treated me!

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notinthemoodfordancing · 21/10/2010 23:28

Even if I did 'give some proof' the OP would more than likely say 'no it wasn't' to try and save face and look less idiotic then she already does- I dont really care a jot who believes me or not but just as the OP is entitled to say I should be shot in the head I am entitled to defend myself.

booooooooooyhoo · 21/10/2010 23:29

sorry but people sneeze in many different ways, some are very interesting. i cannot believe someone would be expected to do something to change how they sneeze. sneezing is involuntary!! how ridiculous.

Theincrediblesulk1 · 21/10/2010 23:34

i wanted to do basic nursing then you can go on and do what you want from there but the nhs sent me this.but it all depends what trust you want to use, i think.

Dear Gemma Thank you for contacting us about training to become a midwife. As promised during our phone conversation of the 13th October the following information lays out the route to becoming a midwife. The direct route to becoming a qualified midwife is by way of a university degree (a "pre-registration" programme) approved by the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NMC). It is possible to qualify as a nurse and then take a shortened course in midwifery although opportunities to do this are limited. The university degree course in midwifery is generally 3 years in length. The minimum entry requirements are broadly 2 A levels or equivalent. However, as each university sets its own entry requirements, the above should be used as a guide only. You will need to contact the individual universities directly to see what entry requirements you will need. Details of courses can be found on the NHS Careers website, using the "Course Finder" tool at: www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/coursefinder Financial support from the NHS is available for eligible students. For details visit the NHS Student Bursaries website: www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/students. If you do not meet the eligibility criteria, you will need to find a university willing to accept you and you will have to fund the course yourself. Very few places are available to self funding students. To apply for the course you will need to contact: Universities & Colleges Admissions Service (UCAS)RosehillNew Barn LaneCheltenhamGloucestershireGL52 3LZ Tel: 0871 468 0 468 Website: www.ucas.ac.uk In addition to full-time university courses, it can be possible to gain relevant healthcare experience as a senior healthcare assistant (HCA) or assistant practitioner, then (with the support of your employer), be seconded onto a part-time pre-registration programme in midwifery at a university. The ability to do this is dependent upon local needs, and so staff working in support roles, wishing to explore this route must check availability with their employer.

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OnceUponA · 21/10/2010 23:34

I don't mean anyone should change how they sneeze I mean if you know that your sneeze sounds like you're laughing at someone and you do it at a dodgy moment ie when their nan has just had a stroke.... then you should apologise and explain. Surely that is simply common sense.

booooooooooyhoo · 21/10/2010 23:37

apologies onceuponA, thought you meant the nurse should be seekinghelp for her sneeze. i see now what you mean. i think it was the "sort yourself out" comment. which i see now means to excuse yourself for the sneeze.

Theincrediblesulk1 · 21/10/2010 23:37

Don't pay her any attention, its not her! she is just lonely or she would just say what accent she has! listen if it is you, i am sorry i didnt ever mean for you to see all this it was my intention to blow off steam! and i will be seeing you next week, so go on let me know if its you so i can say sorry for saying you have a fat arse!

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clemetteattlee · 21/10/2010 23:38

So you have a place on a BMid already for next September?

notinthemoodfordancing · 21/10/2010 23:38

I do actually have a fat arse so that part is entirely accurate.

Theincrediblesulk1 · 21/10/2010 23:39

it was not a sneeze! nothing like a sneeze Shock

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Theincrediblesulk1 · 21/10/2010 23:40

Well no if its you then your actually a size 8 Wink ( i wont tell if you don't, go on what region are you from?!)

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OnceUponA · 21/10/2010 23:40

Yes boooyhoo (definitely didn't put enough o's there ha) I should have written that better.

Theincrediblesulk1 · 21/10/2010 23:41

No not yet! i have not been bothered to do it yet!

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clemetteattlee · 21/10/2010 23:49

Have you gone the A level route then? I know the deadline for first applications was October 15th. I would hurry and get some hospital work experience before the final deadline in December because it's almost impossible to get on a course without it.
Have you got your references in place? Have you for someone to read over your personal statement? I wouldn't neglect that as the course is so competitive to get onto (here in Nottingham they have over 100 applicants for every place).

As the email sent to you says, it is almost impossible to go the conversion route now (and really hard to get on a course in paediatric nursing in the first place).

I know much of this from personal experience. It was easier for me to get onto a medicine degree than to get a place on midwifery but I do get my birth "fix" by being a HCA on a labour ward.

arses · 21/10/2010 23:56

For God's sake!

This is just nasty beyond belief.. the OP was angry and was, well, rounded on and abused in the first page of this thread ("I would have sniggered too") when she was clearly just upset. The strength of her responses reflect the strength of her real life feelings - what excuse have the rest of you?

If the nurse who was mentioned is on this thread she should not be posting a response here!. Or, indeed, responding at all. Frankly, if you are here and engaging in an online bunfight with a patient's relative, you should be bloody reported to the RCN!

I can't believe someone brought up the fact the OP has experienced stillbirth and then there are posts after posts saying she will be a shit midwife etc etc.

It seems to me that tearing a real live person to shreds (questioning their spelling, deliberately misinterpreting what happened, suggesting that her concerns were laughable) when they are angry and upset is bound to provoke extreme reactions.

Any nurse who has posted on this thread should be bloody ashamed of themselves.

Theincrediblesulk1 · 21/10/2010 23:59

bloody hell really, no i have not done anything as i have been too ill, i don't know if i will be well enough next year yet or have to wait another year to start.
I did want to just do the diploma, and decide from there weather or not to do mental health nursing or midwifery, i know two people who are currently doing it this way and love it, but where i live there are limited spaces.

To be honest i have been only half arsed applying. as soon as i am well i will be doing something though, voluntary or even open university. Its all a bit much at the moment.

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Theincrediblesulk1 · 22/10/2010 00:01

thanks arses x

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kittya · 22/10/2010 00:06

Err, Ive said nothing to be ashamed of!!

I said report it to the Ward Manager, its the only way to complain.

And I agree, if as a nurse, you recognise yourself on a forum you should stay well away!

You would hardly have a slagging match on the ward.

Theincrediblesulk1 · 22/10/2010 00:09

kittya i think she was referring to the woman pretending to be the nurse.

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notinthemoodfordancing · 22/10/2010 07:23

So nurses are not allowed to defend themselves when some nasty piece of work is tearing their professionalism to shreds and saying they need to be shot in the head? Rubbish. And why would anyone report a nurse to the RCN what would they do, think you might mean the NMC actually as they are the governing body for nurses.
Im sick to death of ooh nurses mustn't do this, say that etc when they are allowed to be treated and spoken about like dirt as in this case. So I damn well will reply.

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arses · 22/10/2010 09:25

Sorry, kittya - I wasn't clear. It was late: I meant nurses being abusive to the OP in their capacity as a nurse

notinthemoodfordancing - I am also a health professional (but not a nurse so your high-horse point). I go on the special needs forum and see my profession rubbished, see people who enter it rubbish as ineffectual little girls with not a brain cell between them.

It doesn't bother me. I can see that, well, often they have a point. It doesn't really reflect on what I do and when it does, it's often due to the lack of resourcing and I really empathise with the rubbish service some of them get which even some of my colleagues see as adequate.

As a professional, you are supposed to be well-equipped to deal with angry patients. Goes with the territory. You can blow off steam about it with colleagues but venting your anger on a patient (in particular, if you were actually this person's nurse, a real live one).

I suspect that the NMC would take a very dim view of a professional speaking to a client like this on an online forum. It is deeply unprofessional and yes, I would imagine that it would warrant a caution if you were indeed who you say you are. However, you are more likely to be a shit-stirrer so can safely be ignored..

Caron1968 · 22/10/2010 10:44

Arses very interesting post. Whilst I agree that nurses should not interact on a public forum with pts/relatives that they know. I strongly disagree that nurses who have posted on this thread should be ashamed of themselves.
I have said nothing that would bring my profession into disrepute and I have not been abusive to the OP. I have not discussed individual cases or identified the hospital in which I work.

As for the OP I have the greatest respect and sympathy for the position she is in regarding her Nans illness and her own medical problems.
I do feel that some people on this thread have been quite nasty and unthoughtful, however is that surprisng given the OPs response to this. She has been consistent in her nastiness and vile name calling.

There are only two people who know what really went on that day, one of them is on here venting and getting caught up in a vile bunfight, the other purports to be on here giving her side of the story of which she is unable to substantiate. Therefore we are all in the metaphorical dark here not one of us knowing the true facts yet some feel the need to interpret as they see fit and react accordingly.
The great issue that has arisen from this now is not what happened that day at the nurses station but the interaction of individuals on this thread, why the OP feels it is necessary to be so abusive is bemusing. I can understand her being upset but to continue in the way she is is losing herself any credibility she had at the start.

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