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Wedding gift etiquette

275 replies

petal2008 · 22/09/2010 16:41

We have been invited to a friend's fourth (!) wedding.

Along with the invitation was a poem basically saying don't buy a gift as we have got everything we need - we want the money to go on holiday.

Surely it's up to us to ask if there is a wedding list and be told "actually we haven't got one but a voucher or the cash would be nice".

My DH says I'm being too sensitive as would be spending money on a gift anyway so we I won't have to worry about going out to buy anything. I know all this is true but feel a bit pissed off about it.

I've got a special birthday this year but won't invite people to my party saying don't bother about the present but I'll have the money.

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MentalFloss · 23/09/2010 16:20

We have family who write a poem about their year as the message in their christmas cards.

In bloody rhyming couplets.

Every year.

The poem last year was 50 lines long.

I bet you can imagine what their wedding invitation was like.

whenskiesaregrey · 23/09/2010 16:32

I think YABU. We asked people at our wedding for either money or vouchers as we had just moved house, so needed to re-carpet, redecorate etc. We already had the toasters/ kettles/ etc and we were moving to a smaller house so don't have much room. I hated the thought of people wasting their money on stuff for us we had no room for, or would not use. What is the point in that? However, with the B&Q/ Argos vouchers and cash, we can finally get some lights for the ceilings, decorate DSs room and carpet the living room. We couldn't be more grateful.

I'm not keen on people asking for money for a honeymoon though, but that is purely because in 1/2 weeks all the money will be gone, and you will be back in this country and nothing to show for it.

muminthemiddle · 23/09/2010 16:32

Op-I agree 100% with everything you have written.
tbh I would hesitate to even send a card to anybody going through a fourth wedding.

These type of poems are grasping, greedy and very insensitive to all of us who didn't have "everything we need" when we got married.

Why not send a witty poem back about how you don't see the point of sending ANY gift- cash or otherwise.

muminthemiddle · 23/09/2010 16:41

I'm also going to add that if you are so lucky to have everything, then donate money to a good cause, but don't ask others to do it,wait until you are asked what gift you would like and then say, we are supporting such and such good cause.

SuzieHomemaker · 23/09/2010 16:48

IMO wedding gifts are for a young couple setting up home for the first time. Once that couple is past the first flush of youth or are marrying for the second time (or more) then that couple should be categorically stating 'no gifts' and if guests really cant be thwarted then I think gift giving is the ideal solution.

We had an invitation a while back to the second wedding of DHs cousin. I had never met the guy and DH has not met him since childhood. The invitation contained a request for cash or holiday vouchers as a wedding gift. In my opinion this was a horrible cheek, like begging in the street.

We didnt go to the wedding or send a gift.

perfumedlife · 23/09/2010 16:50

I'm with expat all the way. It is just vulgar. Ok, so you have lived together and got a house full of toasters, why not say no gifts then? I lived with dh for a year before our registry office wedding. We put nothing but the invite in the envelope. Lots of people called asking what gift we would like. I said nothing, we need nothing. A lot wouldn't accept it, so I said charity. People called my parents asking and they said you can never have enough good white towels and sheets/duvets covers/white plates so I got loads of those and still love using them.

My wedding was a free bar from 3pm to 2 in the morning, a constant banquet of high quality chinese food, Karaoke, sit where you like, no cake and no tacky almonds in gauze.

It was exactly what I wanted, it cost 2grand and everyone who came made it special. I don't think inviting someone to an all day event and asking them to buy booze on top of outfits and travel is a great thing either. So we had a cheaper venue, no frills and managed to feed and water everyone. They loved it.

The expectation of a gift takes away the pleasure of giving it, and strikes me as a sense of entitlement.

Our honeymoon was a late deal to Greece on teletext, all inclusive, not fancy but all we could afford. We were in love and it was hot, what's not to like.

If you cannot afford a wedding or honeymoon, downgrade spending, don't expect guests to fund it. The weddings most people have already put guest to a lot of expense as it is.

If you are giving a dinner, the clue is in the word 'giving'.

corriefan · 23/09/2010 16:53

YABU about the money, most people have lived together before getting married and don't always need things. I'm going to my friend's wedding in a couple of weeks, they don't have much money and are having a cheap home made wedding where we bring a dish and some cash as a present for their wedding night/honeymoon. I don't resent requests for cash at all.

However, 4th wedding is a bit different, it seems a bit greedy to ask for something 4th time around, surely it should be quite a low key thing!

corriefan · 23/09/2010 16:55

perfumedlife how did the free bar alone for 11 hours come in at under 2 grand??

cherrymonster · 23/09/2010 18:09

if i was going to be getting married, i wouldnt mention anything on the invites, but if asked, i would tell people that i would prefer they made a contribution towards a honeymoon, as i cant afford to pay for one, have never been abroad and have never had a holiday without the kids. i have never been married before, and my wedding would consist of family and close friends who all know my personal situation anyway, and that i already have a houseful of stuff. i cant see that any of them would be offended by this, and would most likely be happy to do this, to help enable me to have a honeymoon which i would be otherwise unable to do.

SuzieHomemaker · 23/09/2010 18:38

Possibly it is envy on my part as I didnt have one but I dont think that asking people to pay for one's honeymoon is right.

Setting up home for the first time is different. Upgrading houshold goods or holidays are luxuries and I think it is wrong for someone to even suggest that others pay for these.

perfumedlife · 23/09/2010 19:16

corriefan, my dad paid the bar up until 6pm as a gift, which he didn't tell us, only when we queried the low cost (his friend owns the restaurant ) did we find out. So our part was only 2K. But we had allocated plenty of money expecting it to be lots more.

I feel very stronly that you shouldn't request people's presence and then allow them to find a lot of money to fund the day. People pick big, expensive venues and the drinks are usually really pricey. My sister was married one month before me, in a posh country hotel, and friends of hers were asking for triples (while the bar was free) and putting them down saying," get me another, it's free! I don't fancy this" Others just couldn't afford to drink on top of the hotel room bill, which most needed as the hotel was miles from anywhere.

ndavy · 23/09/2010 19:27

I don't think there is anything wrong with couples stating what they would like - you aren't forced to buy a gift/give money! You don't even have to go!

We asked people for money as we were saving for a house deposit but we made it clear that we did not expect gifts and we would not be upset if people did not give gifts. So quite a few people, particularly those who had travelled far, did not give us anything. We were perfectly happy with this. People need to lighten up. You might think it is rude or presumptious to state what gifts you would like but many people don't!

Ariesgirl · 23/09/2010 19:48

I don't see anything wrong with it. When we got married, we wanted a lovely honeymoon, we had been living together for three years and had most things we needed. On out invites we said, obviously all we really want is for you to be there - if you would like to buy us a present, some of the following would be very useful (short M&S list). However we are going on holiday to Ireland and contributions would be fantastic, thank you very much. It never occurred to us that anyone would be offended and I don't think anyone was.

perfumedlife · 23/09/2010 20:04

Well here's the interesting thing. The people who don't see anything wrong with it who have asked for money, what makes you so sure people were not offended when it's clear from the posters here that a lot of them would be?

whomovedmychocolate · 23/09/2010 20:08

Hmmm on the fourth wedding issue - unless at least two of the spouses have shuffled off the mortal coil I'd say gifts were extremely inappropriate (unless the gift is Relate vouchers or solicitor time) Wink

Ariesgirl · 23/09/2010 20:20

Because we had a mixture of both! They could have either stayed away or given us a gift if they preferred - the options were all there. And perhaps by saying it's all so offensive, is actually offensive to some people who may need the money and welcomed the generosity and to the people who were happy to give, or to those such as Jewish people where it's accepted and traditional to give money. For goodness sake - you don' have to give any damn money. I had absolutely no idea when I was 25 and hard up and about to get married that this could be considered "offensive", and I'd like to have thought that someone close to me would have advised that this was the case. But they didn't. Or perhaps my friends and family are offensive too. Some people are offended by anything Hmm.

Liv77 · 23/09/2010 20:25

When we got married 7 years ago we mentioned in a letter sent out with our invites that while we would be grateful to receive gifts we were not having a gift list as we were about to relocate at the time and all our possessions were in storage whilst we lived with the PIL.
Due to the nature of DH's job we didn't know where we were going to end up living and did not want to receive gifts only for them to have to be put into storage/shipped overseas. We mentioned that if people wanted to give us money instead we would use it to kit out our new home when we got it.

We discussed it with family/friends and the general consensus was that they would rather we make use of the money than be stuck with a gift we couldn't use.

Ariesgirl · 23/09/2010 20:28

Exactly - and very sensible too. But that is apparently very offensive!

expatinscotland · 23/09/2010 20:33

Classic, whomoved! I like your idea :o.

GeekOfTheWeek · 23/09/2010 20:37

PMSL at 'those that need the money' being offending at being told its offensive.

Ariesgirl · 23/09/2010 20:44

It was merely an illustration about how some people adore being offended and weddings are one big enormous opportunity to cause maximum offense. In fact if I did it again I would grab two witnesses off the street. With every preparation you make, you can let your imagination run wild with the causes of the offense and to whom. I was entertained greatly by my sister's MIL at her wedding last year who had a face like a sour lemon all the way through because they weren't saying grace. OFFENSE!

excitychick · 23/09/2010 20:58

I know someone getting married soon who wants the money to extend their home. Saying there will be plans at the reception so people or should that be payers, can pick which part of the extension they would like to contribute towards. They even gave their bank details so you can put the money straight in for them. Cheeky or what?

expatinscotland · 23/09/2010 20:59

Giving out bank details en masse is beyond stupid.

I mean, do you assume your guests will shred the slip of paper with your details on it, or just toss it in the bin where anyone can find it?

whomovedmychocolate · 23/09/2010 21:03

expat - you jest, but I have received a wedding invite with 'payments to our paypal account, cheques or cash are all welcome' on it Hmm

AlwaysHopeful · 23/09/2010 21:03

Ariesgirl you're right that people can be over sensitive about weddings - they generally bring out the best and worst in people at the same time.

I've attended two close family weddings this summer which couldn't have been more different, but the invitations for both included a poem asking for cash rather than gifts. I hated both, but gave as requested. For me, it's the asking at the same time as inviting that I think is bad manners.