to be getting annoyed at people booing the pope

[yawningprincess]

i know the children abuse issues are pretty horendous but why do people have to stand there booing- its so rude! in other cultures such disrespect simply wouldn't be allowed.

Emptyshell:"The issues I have with the Catholic church are things I've seen and gone through during my time in their school system as a child, and for a while as a teacher within that system.

I saw a religion riddled with inconsistency, hypocrisy and some very very unpleasant people who couldn't half put on a front show of sanctity when the time called for it."

Well there you have it, Emptyshell goes through the school system as a child and teacher and finds inconsistency, hypocricy and unpleasant people. I go through the same system as a teacher and child and I find nothing but pleasant supportive kind people and an exellent standard of pastoral care and education.

Isnt it amazing? If you take the 'Catholic' out we have two people going to school one of whom hated it and one of whom loved it.

Shall we vilify all teachers because some people have had a bad time at school.

But nobody is vilifying all of anything.

People are amazed that the heads of the Catholic church have done nothing to stop the paedophilia for decades, protected paedophiles, still promote no contraception etc etc in this modern age.

People are criticising the pope. Not all Catholics. Nor all priests.

Although I personally couldn't be part of a church that allowed that sex with children stuff to go on for so long and collude with it by moving the priests onto fresh victims new parishes.

LostInZug - well lucky old you that went through the system unscathed. That doesn't negate the atocities that happened to others or mean that we turn a blind eye to it.

It happened, and some accountability from the Vatican, who have a long history of pushing these things under the carpet, would have been nice - at the very least.

I agree that people shoud never been villified because they belong to a certain culture, religion, profession...

In the case of the Pope , I assume they are boing the man for having taken no steps/help cover up child abuse, not Catholics as a whole.

Surely the chances are that some of the people booing are Catholic (though probably wandered off ones more than likely)

I don't know if it's right or wrong to boo someone. It's not very sporting but then still neither is being ultra conservative and telling people what to do all the time. The pope has angered a lot of people by being the head of an organisation that hide the abuse of children for many years and is appearing to do nothing about it. He's also a bit harsh looking which doesn't help matters.

As for why people don't react the same to other religious groups as they do Catholics, I guess it's because there is less threatening to do so.

Thesecondcoming - when you say "i am going to ask one of the anti-catholics.." - you lose me right.

It's the leaders of the Catholic church that are being criticised and booed. Not catholics - the leaders. The boos mean - badly done.

Newwave, so now you're denying catholics their british citzenship. What a nice person you are!
Oh and unquiet dad, you've gone eh, all quiet!!

I'm not quite sure where the leap from criticizing the pope to criticizing all catholics is coming from?

As for booing is rude? Have you heard what he's been saying?? I would have thought that being invited to be a guest of a country (expenses paid) and then publicly complaining about how awful the country was - that I'd say is the very height of rudeness!

unless my memory serves me wrong on the plane coming over to the Uk he said that the church had NOT done enough to seek out and solve child abuse in the past ......It was in Italian but one presumes it was translated by the Uk press.
Booing is wrong and rude to anybody IMO ( unless its the baddie in panto)

The pope has apologised and admitted the church did not handle the child abuse cases in the right way.
The pope has to speak the truth.If he thinks we are a lawless hedonistic bunch of deviants, then his job to show us the error of our ways not tell us what we want to hear .He presumably doesn't want us all burning in hell fires for eternity.(not saying I agree with all this)

I love the idea that someone has "gone all quiet" because they have other things to do than come on here for about 12 hours. Too much time on your hand, curryfreak?

"Inappropriate manner" my arse. Everybody knows my little crushes and I am gently teased for them here on a regular basis. No worse than all the Johnny Depp/Richard Armitage leching that goes on around these parts...

Anti-crossdressing?! So the Pope does wear a dress then? Just checking...

I am thrilled that this disgusting old bigot and friend to paedophiles is getting some measure of how angry many of us feel at seeing his repulsive face and hearing his hideous hypocrital abuse of his hosts.

I agree with ColdComfortFarm.

I am sick to the back teeth of the anti religion sentiment that goes on in this country, in particular the anti-christianity. However, I am glad we live in a free society where we can follow our own beliefs (as long as they don´t impinge on other people). I don´t agree with the catholic church´s stance on contraception, but I do think there are lots of good things the church does in developing countries. Maybe if our secular governements were to properly help developing countries to educate their people and give them decent levels of life, they wouldn´t have to depend on the generosity and charity of the church.

They need to deal with the paedophile preast scandal, btu TBH I feel the anger should be directed more at the actual perpetrators.

If you don´t want to hear about the pope, switch off the telly or change channels. I am fed up of over-zealous athiests telling me I must be either thick or deluded to believe in a supreme being, but I have to put up with it. Why can´t you?

'His repulsive face' wow what a fabulous, rational response to a debate

I do so hope my children grow up totally unable to use an actual arguement and are therefore forced to resort to shallow personal insults.... oh no wait that doesn't normally happen if you are actually able to GROW UP.

Naive question, but why aren't the allegations of abusive priests dealt with by the police.
If one of my DC confided to me they were being abused I would go to the police.It wouldn't occur to me to go the their employer.
i can see that the church is in a difficult position because they believe in forgiveness of sins, confidentiality of confession etc.Kind of like the samaritans can't tell anything to the police

If the church hides away the perpertators -then the whole chuurch will come under attack - perhaps they should have thoguht about their actions and how it would appear if as a Church body they hide away the perpetractors - it wasn't cleaver and it will stick with the church for a long tiem for the evil that was covered and the evil that was allowed to continue

Why are you all here and not out protesting if you feel that stronly. Tell me this, how many of you are out marching today, and what did it say on your banner?
go on humour me.
Unquiet,- you doth protest far too much..
Little crushes (yuck)

Oh, yes, strictlytory, of course, why not ignore everything else in my post. It's uncomfortable isn't it? Ratzinger is a deeply repulsive person. A common criminal, and evil - for what he has done, and what he has allowed to be done.

CCf, how angry you sound!What have you done to protest at the pope's visit?

In other cultures they would just shoot him

curryfreak So we are only allowed to disagree with the pope if we go out of our way to go and protest in a giant crowd?

you obviously dont feel that strongly if you didn't.
Easy to rant on here. Why didn't you do something to protest in the public sphere??