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to be getting annoyed at people booing the pope

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yawningprincess · 17/09/2010 19:35

i know the children abuse issues are pretty horendous but why do people have to stand there booing- its so rude! in other cultures such disrespect simply wouldn't be allowed.

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newwave · 17/09/2010 23:27

Thesecondcoming

Dont know who gobsmacked is but it was my poor spelling.

No one is condemming the laity it is the "boys at the top" for condoning or turning a blind eye at what was/is going on.

Does the catholic church do good, in some ways yes and in others no. The church in one South American country Nicaragua I think has (with the collusion of the government) banned all abortion for any reason even if the mother is at risk of dying.

As for the bible you just might as well take the Chronicles of Narnia seriously

curryfreak · 17/09/2010 23:28

Op forget to say, i'm sure the pope can cope with a bit of booing. i dont think it'll be causing him too much concern.
I think it's pretty patectic mind you. FFS, you'd think that atheisits would be good for something, but it seems even protesting properly is beyond them!

newwave · 17/09/2010 23:30

Curry, he got a "warm welcome" from a small section of his own faith not the "British people" those who would have confronted him and his minions were kept well away by the plod.

Most people I know dont care about him being here one way or the other

sarinha2203 · 17/09/2010 23:32

Agent- I think the booing is out of order personally but obviously some people feel very strongly about this. I was brought up as a Catholic but rarely go to church (usually goe Christmas Eve!) and my children have not been baptized much to my mother's horror! I have faith but not to the extent where I would get in an argument over it. I think Religion has provoked enough wars as it is.

thesecondcoming · 17/09/2010 23:32

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newwave · 17/09/2010 23:37

has had girlfriends etc) and he said they weren't allowed to marry as their duty is to serve and love everyone the same way-if they had a wife and kids then they wouldn't be able to be a 'servant' of their parish.

Most other religions manage to do their "job" and have a wife. I would have thought a wife would give support and help as well, win-win imo.

AgentZigzag · 17/09/2010 23:44

The religion/wars thing is a bit of a red herring I think sarinha, neither WWI or II were set off by religion.

Although not wars, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ceausescu et al killed enough of their own people to be relative to a war, and none of them were religious people.

sarinha2203 · 17/09/2010 23:48

OK not ALL wars but many wars for sure

thesecondcoming · 18/09/2010 00:15

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brassband · 18/09/2010 00:15

But surely the point of the pope is that he is god's mouthpiece on earth.The doctine he puts forward is what god is telling him is right, and not his own views.
I do in a way admire the catholic church's adherence to the bible, rather than 'selling out' to popular opinion.Times change but the word of god doesn't

brassband · 18/09/2010 00:17

ps I'm not a left-footer myself

Saltatrix · 18/09/2010 00:30

Seriously sarinha wars would occur whether or not there was religion. There has been many wars which were not caused by religion and in many cases people just used religion as an excuse to go to war e.g. to expand territory or to remove a ruler who has offended you etc.

In any case the worlds largest wars with the most destruction and loss of life did not occur due to do with religion.

Saltatrix · 18/09/2010 00:32

Booing is kind of childish but they should certainly have the right to let the person know how they feel.

4plus1 · 18/09/2010 00:39

You know what they say, empty vessels make the most noise

demisemiquaver · 18/09/2010 01:17

curriefreak i loved your last post.
unquiet dad are you anti-crossdressing too? (in a mean kind of homophobic kind of way)

demisemiquaver · 18/09/2010 01:29

p.s. i meant the post at 23;18

ItsGrimUpNorth · 18/09/2010 06:41

No, of course the pope doesn't have HIV himself and isn't shagging his way around Africa. Hmm

But what he does have is an awful lot of power and were he to condone condoms as a valid method of disease prevention, then so many could feel ok about it.

And of course he's not the only one guilty of this. The Americans have been promoting abstinence instead of using condoms in Africa too. Abstinence isn't going to happen. It's a fantasy.

Plus the condemning of women to many many children and poverty. All to be cowed by the teachings of the Church and reproduce more and more and more and more.

Booing is a very mild criticism. I find the hero worship utterly distasteful.

I don't think a paedophile becomes a paedophile because he's being made to be celibate. It's nothing to do with that. A normal heterosexual isn't suddenly going to abuse children because he or she isn't getting sex. That's bollocks.

And of course not all priests like to f*ck children. Just a good number over the decades. Never mind the brutality meted out by nuns. I think we've only heard the tip of the iceberg.

echt · 18/09/2010 06:48

What itsgrimupnorth said.

SkiHorseWonAWean · 18/09/2010 06:59

YANBU and IMO it doesn't matter whether it's legal or not, it's just plain rude. Have these people really not got anything better to do?

Betty: What did you do yesterday Anne?
Anne: Oh baked a cake for a family picnic, gym class, nipped to library, violin lesson for Anastasia.
Betty: Yehhhh, we-elll, I took a bus and a tube to stand 10 deep jeering a pensioner who doesn't affect my life one iota. It was brilliant

Chil1234 · 18/09/2010 07:07

I'm getting increasingly annoyed that this man - our guest - seems to think the sole purpose of his visit is to lecture us on what a rotten bunch of godless heathens we all are. (The 'third world' comments by the cardinal were clearly no accident) I'm getting annoyed that he's sweeping into cities in triumphal motorcades like some elderly rock-star. I'm incredibly annoyed at the whole thing.

I think a little booing is quite restrained in the circumstances.

Marjoriew · 18/09/2010 07:13

If I took all of those kids who were in care with me and suffered the way we did, who are now adults to wherever Ratzinger is currently parading himself, our booing numbers would far exceed the crowds who had come to fawn over him.
I'm a pensioner now and all this crap with this protector of child abusers coming here has disturbed the peace of mind of all of us survivors. To us it seems that as a nation we have shown that we have been forgotten and that what we suffered was and is of no consequence because he has been accepted here.
It's sickening.

ItsGrimUpNorth · 18/09/2010 07:21

"Jeering at a pensioner who doesn't affect my life one iota?"

So we just shouldn't have an opinion on the pope? He disgusts me.

He affects millions. Millions. Could affect millions more if he changed his nonsensical policies on contraception. Homosexuality. Paedophile priests.

Booing is mild.

And as for abstinence in Africa, why shouldn't people enjoy a healthy sex life using the barrier methods of contraception? Oh, because the bloody pope says not too.

Booing is mild.

He is not welcome in the UK, expecting us to spend so much on his security so he can lecture us.

echt · 18/09/2010 07:32

Double what grimupnorth said.

JeelyPiece · 18/09/2010 10:04

Pensioner who doesn't affect my life one iota?

What a silly thing to say Skihorse. So we should let Mugabe, Kim Jong Il, Charles Taylor etc just get on with it should we? They are also pensioners who don't affect my life one iota. Some people care about others, you know. And reaching the age of 60 doesn't suddenly make one an innocent defenceless wee soul.

LostInZug · 18/09/2010 10:18

"It amazes me that Catholics are not more angry about their church who hid paedophiles."

Because THEIR church is the sum total of it's people. THEIR church is not one person-nor a handful of people.

THEY are angry THEY are resigned. THEY are millions of diverse people.