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... to Protest the Pope?

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stubbornhubby · 08/09/2010 09:03

A friend of mine told me at the weekend that this will make me an extremist...anyway we had a long thread about this in July and a few people said they'd be keen, like me, to wave a banner as he parades around the country.

There's a big march in London on Sat 18th, Hyde park Corner @ 1.30pm
details here
www.protest-the-pope.org.uk/

Also, if you live in SW London, a Small demo in Strawberry Hill on Fri 17th @9am. (NB official visti website says you will not be able to see the pope arrriving/departing SMUC - I think he must be using helicopter. Or apparating Smile)

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sanielle · 08/09/2010 11:04

Can Pope bashing be contained to this thread

You confuddle threads this way.

slug · 08/09/2010 11:05

BadKitten, then why are you complaining? To be fair, it seems many Catholics don't want him here either. The ticket sales have been underwhelming at best.

taintedpaint · 08/09/2010 11:33

Aside from the moral objections I have WRT the abhorrant nature of the Catholic church and it's policies, I simply do not see how this visit can be justified given the financial state of this country. It's sick to allow it when people are already suffering, without this added unnecessary cost. So YADNBU.

tokyonambu · 08/09/2010 11:37

"That's the thing about catholics they're not prone to burning efigies in the street"

If only they stopped at effigies.

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StrictlyTory · 08/09/2010 11:58

Tokoyo I find your total ignorance regarding Hitler Youth astounding frankly.

He was 14! A child! You would like to see a child face 'unpleasant consequences' would you? Frankly I think that makes you pretty sick in the head.

A CHILD cannot be expected to act as an adult would. He morally objected as did his whole family but to suggest a child should have risked their life is more than a little bit sick and clearly you are totally ignornt of what life was like for a German child during WW2.

StrictlyTory · 08/09/2010 12:05

'Following his 14th birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was conscripted into the Hitler Youth ? as membership was required by law for all 14-year old German boys after December 1939[9] ? but was an unenthusiastic member who refused to attend meetings.[10] His father was an enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith. In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was taken away by the Nazi regime and killed during the Aktion T4 campaign of Nazi eugenics'

But hey when you arguement is weak there is always the glorious fact that as a German alive in 1939 you can call him a Nazi Hmm

'I also think that in 2010 there are enough people who are not contaminated by the Hitler Youth that you don't need to choose a former Nazi to run your club.'

You are a bigot and a racist for writing this Angry being a GERMAN does not make you a Nazi. Being forced into the Hitler Youth as a frigging CHILD does not make you a Nazi. It sickens me that people think writing such disgusting lies is ok.

PaulineCampbellJones · 08/09/2010 12:11

Go wave your banner, show you are angry by all means. But you would be far better putting your energy into something positive. Volunteering, helping children in care, fundraising for charity. It would bring the world on a lot further.

curryfreak · 08/09/2010 12:12

This pope bashing is getting a bit tedious now,- and not very imaginative at that.
Go on op and protest if you want. Just shut the fuck up about it.

shinyrobot · 08/09/2010 12:33

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sanielle · 08/09/2010 12:41

Shinyrobot you have a point but the thread is in AIBU, so curryfreak clicking on it to complain is OK.

Mingg · 08/09/2010 12:44

Agree with you curryfreak

Altinkum · 08/09/2010 12:47

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StrictlyTory · 08/09/2010 13:18

Stewie he has denounced it a 100 times. He has said that the 'Nazis were evil' and anti Catholic teaching. He has talked about how they murdered his cousin for having Downs....

StrictlyTory · 08/09/2010 13:20

Pope Benedict XVI marked Holocaust Remembrance Day yesterday by denouncing the ?horror? of the Holocaust and the ?unheard of brutality? of death camps created by Nazi Germany, AP reported.

Benedict called the death camps ?abhorrent and inhumane places,? issued an appeal ?that such tragedies never repeat themselves,? and turned his thoughts to the ?countless victims of a blind racial and religious hatred.?

He told his weekly audience the memory of those events, and especially ?the tragedy of the Shoah that has struck the Jewish people,? should induce respect for all mankind. Shoah is Hebrew for the Holocaust.

Pope Benedict?s personal biography is particularly meaningful (or controversial) for Vatican-Jewish relations. Born Joseph Ratzinger in Germany in 1927, the future Pope was conscripted into the Hitler Youth at 14. According to Catholic media reports, he refused to attend meetings (membership was mandatory for boys of that age). Pope Benedict has said that his father bitterly opposed the Nazis as opponents of Catholicism and that a cousin of his?who had Down Syndrome?was murdered because of Nazi eugenicist policies.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 08/09/2010 13:25

Did someone just call Tokyo a bigamist? :o

It is nothing like blaming David Cameron for everything that happens in the country, it's like holding the CEO of a company responsible for not controlling or disciplining their employees.

Altinkum · 08/09/2010 13:35

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NotFromConcentrate · 08/09/2010 13:45

YANBU.

I am also hoping I am NBU to be miffed that a 20-mile section of major motorway is to be closed in order that it may be used as a CAR PARK for the Pope's visit to Glasgow!

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 08/09/2010 13:46

He's the "prime minister" of the UK, Altinkum. He's not the CEO, he doesn't pay our wages and isn't responsible for hiring and firing us. The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church (unless I am being really thick, and bears don't actually poo in the woods) and thus can instigate action against Catholic priests - including sacking/defrocking them?

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 08/09/2010 13:47

What is all this £25/ticket Papa in the Park stuff?

Altinkum · 08/09/2010 13:50

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webwiz · 08/09/2010 13:50

Dunno Elephants my ticket was a fiver.

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stubbornhubby · 08/09/2010 13:57

He is a head of state, but there was no need for the UK to invite him as a head of state.

the last pope visit in 82 was not a state visit - it was a pastoral one to visit his followers, and the paid for by the catholic church.

of course the pope is free to visit britain, we are an open country, but ..I don't think we should be according him the honour of inviting him on a state visit

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