to hide the feminism topic?

[CerealOffender]

the thread titles are all so serious and worthy and make me feel frivolous and unsisterly.

It does spill into relationships too as I said earlier.

The problem is with the feminism topic from what I have seen, is that you can't have a different opinion, you just can't, you'll get pushed out. You can't debate a subject as opinions from the other side cannot be brought up.

It spills over to other topics such as relationships, and it's always posters from the feminism boards. Somethings you'll read and think bloody hell if that were a man he'd be flamed to hell and back, but as it's a woman she must be the vicitm and the man some how an abuser. I have noticed this trend on a few threads since I have posted here.

Everything as said above is black/white no shades of grey and you can't possibly be on the wrong colour, it's dull and unhealthy IMO not to mention bloody pretentious.

Custy, that is very true and you are spot on to bring it up.

But tbh, I hate the way feminism gets such a bad press. There are very few people who would still happy declare themselves racists or homophobes. But it's still OK to bash feminists? Why?

Custardo - you would prob be interested in the class issue topic on feminism - check it out (suggestion, not instruction, obv).

Oh and Custy, get thee back onto Twitter!

Agreed chipmonkey. Why the bashing.

i do not define my ecomonic and political views through feminism rather i believe i am more aligned to socialism - again equality for all, no special bold or underline for the cause of women specifically, but for the economic and political equality of....people. all people.

so i'm not thick, i just have a different view.

HOWEVER, it has been said many many many times on mn that you must be a feminist if you are a woman, or be a bit thick. i rather resent that view actually.

But Custy, socialism and feminism are not mutually exclusive, surely?

A defacto feminist I suppose custy, if you believe in all that, for women too.

Its quite a leap to suggest that anyone who hides the feminism topic on Mumsnet is not a feminist. I have lurked a lot and have just not felt inclined to post. I hide about 80% of the topics on Mumsnet, narrowing the talk boards down to the few topics I feel like participating in in this particular format.

The issue with declaring yourself a feminist though, is whether you believe in the conscious global conspriracy of The Patriarchy, which I'm not sure that I do. I am most wholeheartedly against women's oppression, but remain unconvinced that ALL men have a vested interest in keeping us down. Like Custy, I see myself as more of a socialist, but I think that opposing women's oppression falls under that umbrella.

Can take some getting used to but i like it, occasionally you might get the odd person coming along with 'ok you said that [insert your comment] but what you meant is this [insert their interpretation of your comment]'. I guess it could be slightly intimidating especially if their interpretation is not what you meant, but there is no need for it to be simply tell them that sorry that is not what you meant and then if you wish explain further. I think multiple views is good for discussion.

yes yes what bof said

as with any label,feminism,socialism we all bring different things to it.and this faux competitiveness what would wollstencraft/pankhurst think is bit digression.blair considers himself a socialist,hotly conceded perhaps but he apparaently does

I hide it becayse I am either in total agreement with everything they say, or in utter disagreement with it all and unable to vocalise my objections. No inbetween and tbh the attitude of many of the prolific posters in that topic irritate me (just my own opinion)

I don't declare myself a feminist, and I detest the idea that women who don't are somehow feeble beings, unable to stand up for themselves. I am far from feeble..

BOF - I totally agree.

I used to declare myself a feminist; I'm a child of the '70's, Spare Rib and consciousness-raising. I even worked in a Women's Aid refuge for a few years.

I no longer wish to associate myself with feminism, because I have so often been told on the feminist board, or by some of their more vociferous posters, that the opinions I have, based on my own extensive experience, should be silenced because they don't fit with the current agenda. I have seen other women similarly addressed.

"Feminists" support women, yes; but only women who support feminist agendas. The rest of us are class traitors anti-woman, apparently.

chipmonkey, some of us were the people womanning the barricades and burning bras to enable us to win the right to have oral contraceptives, rights at work and the rest. Some of us predate the sex equality act and are pleased that we were part of the movement in the 70s and 80s.
I'm not hiding the thread, but I don't feel like being shouted at for holding a different opinion on some things, I'm from the hairy boiler-suited with doc Martin's period and thus out of date.
I think SGM is speaking a lot of sense over there.

OMG! OMG! xposting with you.
Nice to have another Old Lady on the boards

i was accused of being troll/anti-feminist. for having temerity to disagree with posts

Another Spare Rib reader?

Uhuru and the feminist lot in Oxford.

Ah, scottishmummy, I'm a troll/anti-feminist/anti-woman/a hairy-handed trucker called Dave, from Hull, for the same reasons. Sisterhood, innit.

Could it possibly be that it is not the subjects discussed in Feminism, but the people posting in feminism that is the problem?

If you have something you feel you have the need to say - then be a feminist and have your say!!! That is the whole point of feminism, that women have the right to an opinion, to be who they want to be and think what they want to think.

My lecturer said that feminism was dead because we are not united an implied that that should be the tone of my essay. I disagreed and said that, like men, we are all different and have different backgrounds, beliefs and values. As a woman, I think it is your right to make chutney and bring your man his slippers if its what YOU WANT TO DO. If you want to go out to work and vote and earn the same money doing the same job as a man you should have that right too. However, as statistics show, that still isnt possible and therefore those that want to need to keep pushing for that right.

I have to say I am dismayed that women are so bored (?) of the topic of rape.

Although I wear Timberland boots now I'm respectable. I'm sure I remember being that strident and everything was Fascist Repression by Men.
I guess I got old and need to get out of the area. Become a spectator. Oh, wait...

i post any topic i wish as discursive forum allows.no squawk of troll/antifeminist will deter.i am bemused though,inference being toe da line or ship out sister