To be angry that 30 year old fatties are moaning!?!

[sugarray]

My little boy has recently been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I was totally heartbroken when we found out! Since then when people have offered him sweets/at partys/in shops, when I have to tell people he can't have things and why, This is usually followed by chubbie thirty to fifty year olds moaning to me that they or a relative have type 2 diabetes and how hard it is for them!

Type 2 is self inflicted.... btw..
I am soo angry that this has happened to my son.... He is only 4 (through no fault of his own Or anyone else) I just want to shout at them to shut up,stop eating so much shit and move around a bit more!!

This may not make sense, but AIBU?

OP, I can understand your upset and anger, but don't agree with your sentiments re Type 2. My mum was diagnosed with Type 2 about 3 years ago. SHe's always been overweight and pretty inactive. Doesn't eat a massive amount, but really very sedentary. She's suffered terrible side effects from her medication and has a hardline GP who's told her her Type 2 diabetes is her fault for being so overweight. We all know this really, but she can't understand how it's happened and tends to get very upset if we bring even talk about the fact that she's diabetic or suggest a bit of exercise. But she's my lovely, sweet mum and I wouldn't for one moment judge her for her weight.

"She's had people with PCOS and it has vanished" - just to clarify - you cannot cure PCOS - its a genetic condition. You can in many cases improve symptoms with diet but there are plenty of slim PCOS'ers.

Rubybuckleberry, if you find it hard to believe then come and live a few days in my life. I go up a dress size a week before my period and go down again a week after without any changes in my eating habits. What would you like me to do about this?

and I do agree with RIven. The OP is angry which is understandbale.

Riven you just jab the lancets into the finger/earlobe/toe. It really doesn't take much for the blood to come out, but I've been doing it for so long that I guess I know how much pressure I need. If it's hardish to get the blood out, you can put a little bit of pressure on the finger/earlobe/toe underneath where you are going to push the lancet in to make the blood flow a little better. It's a purely personal thing though - I just don't like those little machines just as I prefer normal syringes and needles rather than pens.

Sugarray, I reiterate what I said at 5.34 this morning (was I really up so early?). You are upset at your son's diagnosis, and that is perfectly reasonable. You are also lashing out at those who don't understand his diagnosis, and that too is perfectly understandable.

As others have suggested, perhaps when you have had time to come to terms with this diagnosis, you might see "fatties with Type 2 diabetes" in a rather different light, for all the reasons outlined here. But probably, you just won't care about them because you will be focused on your son, and on what you can do to help him to live a good and healthy life.

I wish you and your son all the best.

YOu lot are getting ad too angry really you are, must be touching a nerve here.
Mildly over weight doesn't bother me at all, morbidly obese is horrible as is ultra skinny. I don't like either extreme.
Anyway the point is moved here. My post originally was about fat people not taking responsibility for their weight issues.

Lol at Kitty being the weight monitor.

I wonder what nerve you think you are touching - can you explain?

I personally see no great problem in Kitty loathing fat people. The love and respect of the deeply unpleasant surely is not something most of us would want?

It must be like Nick Griffin thinking you are a top bloke. Something not greatly to be desired

Oblomov wins gracious persistence award

That's exactly what i said Pagwatch

Oh, and I meant to add - Sugarray, perhaps when you have had time to come to terms with your son's diagnosis, you might like to take up the offers from Oblomov and Macdoodle to talk you through this.

OP - totally understand why you are lashing out, but you are not being very fair.

If you told me about your DS I would probably say that I knew someone who had Type 1 who is 15 (to which you would probably think, well that's not as bad as someone who is 4), or I might say that my uncle has type 2 (he is 60 and thin btw - but that would anger you as you would mistakenly assume he was 'a fatty').

There is no taking away your anger for now, and you obviously perceive peoples comments as either trying to unfairly compare illnesses, or to make light of your DS's condition. I hope that at some point soon you will be able to realise that the majority of people are trying to empathise with you, and be sympathetic.

(although not implying you can't read, Pagwatch!)

YANBU. I know when I was ill and diagnosed with arthritis as a teen I hated both the elderly women I met at hospital who acted like their condition was comparable AND those who took the opposite approach and said that they were glad it hadn't happened to them younger and agreed my life was ruined. I was lashing out and felt like they couldn't possibly understand, being somehow more deserving and more suited to getting arthritis just by dint of being old. My support nurse told me that this is a completely normal reaction and I wasn't a nastier person for these feelings. Luckily this was in the time before forums, so I couldn't share this bitterness with the world. I have also stopped feeling like that and now feel lucky to have this illness in a time with good drugs, whereas some of these women have permanent problems.

I would also say in your defence that it is quite likely that, IMO, the people with type2 who try to foist daft foods on your DS are those who have developed the condition as a result of irresponsible behaviour. Those with a family history/ bad luck etc would probably be more understanding and careful. Perhaps those irresponsible regarding diet find it easier to dismiss the diet risks when talking to your son because to do so would make a painful reflection to their own culpability. I doubt they are trying to harm him or bring him round to their way of thinking by encouraging sugar consumption.

I hope you get the help and support you need. I know a number of people with Type1 who developed it young and live very full and active lives (isn't Steve Redgrave the rower Type1 - for example).

YANBU.

I'd be very pssed off if fat people with self-inflicted (PROBABLY*) problems were comparing themselves to my child. How insulting! They're the ignorant ones, not you.

nah - sorry I missed it fanjo!

there are too many odd threads on MN today. I can't keep up

I had actually been thinking I was invisible, have been totally ignored several times on threads since yesterday!

I do totally understand why Sugarray is angry and upset and do not think that is unreasonable, I just think fatty bashing as a response may not be the best way forward.