To be angry that 30 year old fatties are moaning!?!

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My little boy has recently been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I was totally heartbroken when we found out! Since then when people have offered him sweets/at partys/in shops, when I have to tell people he can't have things and why, This is usually followed by chubbie thirty to fifty year olds moaning to me that they or a relative have type 2 diabetes and how hard it is for them!

Type 2 is self inflicted.... btw..
I am soo angry that this has happened to my son.... He is only 4 (through no fault of his own Or anyone else) I just want to shout at them to shut up,stop eating so much shit and move around a bit more!!

This may not make sense, but AIBU?

Can I ask would you say to someone "oh your throat cancer is self inflicted you smoked/passive smoked so you deseve absolutely no sympathy." My friend's newborn baby was tested for diabetes I think it was type 2 at birth because her sheer size more than anything else. Was that self inflicted? Had she been scoffing cream cakes and milk tray in the womb?

YABVVU and a bit holier than thou. I'm sorry your DS has diabetes it isn't pleasant but it wont go away or make either of you feel better by pointing the finger and playing the blame game.

could be quite handy sometimes!!

that was to pagwatch!

it has the potential to be quite surprising at the very least..

prozacfairy, I wouldn't be happy if someone compared my child's cough to that of a heavy smokers. That's closer to the argument.

BTW, NOT having a dig, but is/was your friend obese? I've heard about diabetic babies being born of obese mothers.

YABU - It is a myth that type 2 diabetes is 'less serious' or caused purely by obesity. Genetics is a major cause of type 2 - my best friend's dad is a slim builder, and his mother was never fat but both got type 2 and have suffered from complications. Type 1 and type 2 are different illnesses. Type 2 diabetes has a slower onset, and goes undiagnosed for longer causing more serious problems (heart disease, peripheral vascular disease, strokes etc). It must be very hard to have a chronically ill child but please don't get angry with others who have illnesses. Good luck in helping your son manage his condition.

pagwatch - I could play very mean tricks on DH!

I never used the word loathe pagwatch

I am not the weight monitor. The world would be a healthier place if over weight people were bothered to be their own weight monitors.

the world would be a nicer place if people weren't so judgy of others too..

Boobja- even if my friend is obese- she isn't btw- how is a baby's diabetes self inflicted?

The point about cancer I was trying to make I made badly. My daughter has asthma which is getting worse and at 2 years old she obviously has never smoked (neither have I) but her gran who has it too used to puff around 40 a day. Yes MIL's is self inflicted but doesn't mean it's ok to say "yeah well it's all your fault so what you moaning about?" I just do not get that attitude at all.

Exactly puddlepuss!

""She's had people with PCOS and it has vanished" - just to clarify - you cannot cure PCOS - its a genetic condition." Exactly.

There is no cure, and if you really understood PCOS and how it differentiates between person to person you wouldn't say that. You haven't a clue how me or puddlepuss eat. I eat better than just about every person I know but still suffer when I'm not on the pill. My mother and all 5 of my sisters have it but we all suffer in different ways - I'm the only one who suffers with pain so bad that I can barely walk. However only one of my sisters suffers with excess hair. And did you know that having a lot of moles can also be an indicator?

BTW agree Altkinum it's not a contest. People should stop judging just by what they think they see.

Totally agree fanjo- it's such a waste of time.

AuntieMaggie - I get the excess weight, excess hair and the pain - wow, don't I sound attractive!! Any tips on coping with any of it?? I mean apart from the excess weight obviously. I've been told how to deal with that by Kitty. I just have to never eat again and exercise in a darkened room incase I offend someone by being outside.

Just for the record.... i am not fatphobic . I am a size 20. I don't think type 2 do not deserve treatment. I am suprised at the amount of people telling me off for being nasty, judgy and then going on to insult and judge me, as a person, based on one angry post!
I am aware that many of you have much more and worse things in your lives and i admire those of you that just get on with it. You are much better people
than me. However.....right now.....this is how i feel. Duritzfan said it much better than i did.

Or maybe, like me, they are struggling with depression, and just can't do everything at once.

Tbh, I think it is more important that I work on pulling myself out of the depression, so that I don't slip back to a point where I am seriously considering suicide almost every day, can see no point in living, and think my family would be better off without me.

Kitty - has it ever occurred to you that you might be missing out on knowing some great people, because of your 'fat people are disgusting' attitude? I know lots of people who are fun, wise, supportive, intelligent, friendly, generous and caring - and here's the big surprise - many of them are overweight.

Being overweight doesn't make me a bad person - I can (and intend to) change my weight - it's a lot harder to change from being unpleasantly judgemental. I may be slim one day - will you always be nasty, kittywise?

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" kitty maybe they dont want to be weigh mointers, maybe they want to be big, and not make life style changes, maybe they cant be arsed to change their diet!"

Yup, maybe they do want to eat too much and run the risk of getting serious diseases stressing their hearts, putting strain on their joints, risk getting type 2. Infact I'm sure that is a choice many very over weight people make. Dawn french is a good example.

After all it takes effort....

Yeah me too

Ignoring people who judge you is the first one!

The excess weight is hard, because its really upsetting to be really good and eat everything you're told and then still put on half a stone in a week! The main thing I try to do is limit carbs and have plenty of veg. The carbs are meant to make the insulin resistance worse, and I tend to suffer from low blood sugar because of this so I don't rule them out but try not to have too many, especially during ovulation or period weeks. My sister has lost quite a bit of weight on a pescetarian (veggie who eats fish) diet and taking things like star flower supplements but that didn't work for me as one of the other tablets I take for another medical condition really depletes my vitamin B so I need meat.

The pain is horrible. Foods (plenty of veg and fibre) and painkillers that don't put any pressure on your bowels (coedine can do this), hot compresses, not staying still for too long and being kind to yourself helps :)

I'm really sorry about your son, but you're wrong you know.

My dad has type 2 diabetes. He's not fat. In fact he is very thin because of the steroids and cancer drugs he takes.

I'm not telling you this to make you feel bad. He copes very well his cancer and diabetes.

I think you will find as time passes that things will become easier and that a lot of your feelings at the moment are probably quite normal reactions to being given such horrible news.

Can't understand why other people can't see this for what it is.

but I'm not talking about the very small minority who have medical issues that affect their weight. I'm talking about those that have a choice and choose to do nothing about it, like altinkum says.

Type 2 diabetes is not always "self inflicted".

The irony of having a go at others for lack of understanding.

Type 2 is quite often genetic, what is with this place has the summer holidays brought out the stupid/ignorant/uneducated of the internet.