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To be angry that 30 year old fatties are moaning!?!

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sugarray · 25/08/2010 02:37

My little boy has recently been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I was totally heartbroken when we found out! Since then when people have offered him sweets/at partys/in shops, when I have to tell people he can't have things and why, This is usually followed by chubbie thirty to fifty year olds moaning to me that they or a relative have type 2 diabetes and how hard it is for them!

Type 2 is self inflicted.... btw..
I am soo angry that this has happened to my son.... He is only 4 (through no fault of his own Or anyone else) I just want to shout at them to shut up,stop eating so much shit and move around a bit more!!

This may not make sense, but AIBU?

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 25/08/2010 13:10

kittywise - you don't sound like much of a loss to the obese, tbh.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 25/08/2010 13:12

I'm sure they could live without your friendship/good opinion.

sarah293 · 25/08/2010 13:12

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NorrisMcWhirter · 25/08/2010 13:15

OP I can understand why you are angry but you are being totally unreasonable and unpleasant towards other sufferers of the same disease as your son, many of whom may be as blameless as your son in the disease they have been unfortunately afflicted with.

Kitty - wow. I do hope none of your children become fat as adults.

GwendolineMaryLacey · 25/08/2010 13:15

"I don't like looking at people as fat as dawn french. I also know lots of people,who thinks she looks awful because she so fat"

Two things bug me about those statements. Firstly, the world doesn't exist just for you to look at and that's a pretty nasty attitude and I agree with the previous poster who blamed attitudes like yours for the psychological issues that often go hand in hand with obesity. God help us if we all have to live our lives with whether or not you like looking at us in mind Hmm

Secondly, I'm slightly bemused that you've gone round your friends canvassing opinion on Dawn French. You might know what your best friend or partner thinks of her but 'lots of people' suggests a questionnaire and clipboard! Or you're exaggerating to suit your argument.

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TheCrackFox · 25/08/2010 13:19

What a bizarre thing to say (I'm not fat BTW) I couldn't give a toss what someone else looks like. I am far too busy enjoying my won life. Have you thought about getting a hobby Kittywise?

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cordiality · 25/08/2010 13:22

She DOES have a hobby Crackfox, it's observing and noting fat people and their outdoor eating habits! The day must just fly by!

Mahraih · 25/08/2010 13:26

In response to OP: as many have said, YABU. Not for being angry at strangers pressing sweets on your child when you have told them about the situation, but by judging them and making assumptions about their lifestyles.

Kittywise: I had an eating disorder and when I did, my attitude was EXACTLY like yours. I found fat disgusting, both on myself and others, hated looking at it because I was afraid of it, and essentially dehumanised obese people in my mind. My only excuse is that I was immature and had a mental problem, because NOBODY should be treated as a social leper or inferior because of their weight.

We all have vices (yours, I believe, would be a complete lack of tolerance for certain people) - some of those vices are easy to keep secret, and some of them are worn on our bodies. People who 'eat too much' are unlucky in that their vice is shown on the outside. And, if they are obese through no fault of their own, they have to deal with knowing that people like YOU are watching them and judging. It's difficult, why make it worse? Why be that cruel?

FYI have never been anywhere approaching overweight (am 17 weeks pregnant though so this may change!)

AuntieMaggie · 25/08/2010 13:26

OMG I can't believe you can be so nsaty about people with type 2!

Several relatives on both sides of my family have type 2 and they're the healthy ones in the family! As such I'm at a high risk of developing it too because I'm overweight and suffer insulin resistance due to PCOS like puddlepuss.

Even when on a strict diet I still put on anything up to half a stone each time I ovulate or have a period, which is why when I came off the pill for major surgery I ended up putting on 4 stone. The pain I also suffered made it impossible to walk for 2 weeks every month too.

But you know what, you and people like you would look at me now at a size 18/20 and judge me for being fat without knowing the background behind it and actually it's none of your business.

So next time you feel like judging someone stop and think.

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pigletmania · 25/08/2010 13:29

Thanks very much Altinkum [smacking my lips in anticipation of a nice hunk of battery fish)

TheFruitWhisperer · 25/08/2010 13:30

I understand totally OP. My Grandmother has had type 1 since she was 20 and a lot of people say, ooooooooooh that means you need to be careful.

Yes. I do need to be careful. But only because type 1 is hereditary. Not because I am more at risk of getting type 2.

puddlepuss · 25/08/2010 13:32

Kitty, your comments stink and hurt people and by having these views you're teaching your kids to have these views. I'd hate to know that I was bringing my kids up to have no friends.

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Duritzfan · 25/08/2010 13:40

wow... I cant believe this thread !

My daughter was diagnosed at age 4 .. she was extremely ill and we are every lucky that she made it .. Those of you who think Type 1 isnt life threatening really havent got a clue..My dd has been hospitalised regularly and has been in rushed to hospital by ambulance too man times for me to count..
My daughter is a tiny scrap of a thing who currently has between 6 and 8 injections a day ..Often more.. We cannot leave her for more than 4 hours without checking her blood as she swings high and low - so we are up twice a night every night ..

Type 1 diabetes is not something it is easy to get your head around - it affects the entire family forever.. My daughters life expectancy is shortened and she has risk factors for all kinds of complications and could well end up needing a transplant

The problem I feel is that Type 1 and Type 2 are not separated enough by the media ..They are different illnesess and really should have totally different names ..
Type 1 research suffers at the hands of Type 2 research
these days due to our huge obesity epidemic and the massive rise of Type 2 ..Type 1 has become second place.. to us parents of children with Type 1 Diabetes that is very very hard..

I feel for the OP..she is not being unreasonable at all..
Her language should have been kinder and yes she has made major generalisations - but having been in her shoes and walking in her shoes every day I know how she feels...

OP ..suggest you google CWD

here

www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/uk

you will find a wonderful community of parents who understand how you feel...and wont judge until they have walked in your shoes...

Hang in there too.. it does get easier to cope with ...

xxx

Oblomov · 25/08/2010 13:43

I posted a very nice message of support to OP, offering o help her.
I did the same to Spidermama all those years ago when she discovered that her ds had diabetes. and like to think i can be of help.
Response ? Zero. No aknowledgement.

Did you not see my post wonderinglinda ? or garlicoliveoil ?
"hat a lot of support she has got, you lovely bunch"

errr HELLO. I offered support. Macdoodle did too.
And I'm I glad that AT1137 apologised, becasue type 1 is very serious. I was in a coma, transfered to Guys hospital, for months, so i bet my mum and dad with 2 older boys, found thta very hard.

RubyBuckleberry · 25/08/2010 13:47

Wow! Some of you doth protest too much! I read Kittywise's posts as that of someone simply taking a hard line. Tbh, she's not too far from what I think. People don't take responsibility. In a way, its not their fault: they are betrayed by family and society teaching them crap ways of eating and living, but if they took responsibility they would be slimmer.

Sorry, but it sounds to me like lots of people are getting their knickers in a twist because they are overweight themselves. There are quite a few 'I eat two crackers and I am massive stories' which tbh I find hard to believe. You only have to watch that You Are What You Eat programme to see. She's had people with PCOS and it has vanished, not by eating crackers but by eating oodles of fresh vegetables and pulses etc. The majority of fat people would be much healthier and slimmer if they simply ate a better diet and exercised. Again, its not entirely their fault - modern office jobs / advertising / society bla bla doesn't help which is really sad. Unfortunately, change really does have to come from inside.

I watched this amazing programme on the Shimshal (sp) people of northern Pakistan who are the healthiest people in the world. They eat Yak cheese and fresh food and walk up K2 a few times a year Grin and they don't have any of the big 'lifestyle' illnesses like heart disease and diabetes. They don't even have any cancer in their society. Incredible. They sent these four 'fatties' up to live with them for a month. Completely changed their lives. Completely. We can learn alot from them, but only if we really want to.

OP you sound pissed off and its not really the people you are directing it at's fault.

TheFruitWhisperer · 25/08/2010 13:47

You are right Duritz fan, there is a huge amount of difference.

When my Nan was diagnosed they had hardly any idea what was wrong with her. Hackney Hosp wouldnt send an ambulance and my Grandad carried her in to a black cab to UCLH, all while she was in a diabetic coma. The whole family are versed on strict dinner times, injection times, what to do with a hypo etc.

Thats not the same as eating too many sweets. Also btw, they dont differentiate Type 1/Type 2 on your maternity notes which infuriates me. As if I were to get gestational diabetes it would have been Type 1 lying dormant and would have come out anyway. So the advice on my diet Im getting is rubbish.

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RubyBuckleberry · 25/08/2010 13:53

difficult to comment on your nephew i married Confused don't know himfrom adam!

everythingiseverything · 25/08/2010 13:55

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