MN is quite happy to let innacurate thread titles be posted that could promote discrimination against disabled children and their famillies

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Title say's it all.

I am one of those posters with NT dcs who dont speak up on those disablist threads that often - and I'm sorry for it.

I do sometimes on benefit/single mothers threads as I have direct experience of it and feel sure in what I'm saying.

On SN threads I worry that I'm using the wrong terminology or being otherwise not very pc - I know that sounds lame but often the wrong word can get you a here even though you want to learn more and be supportive. I know thats no excuse and its upto me to educate myself on the right language - just as we have all done with racial language - it just lags behind.

I am sure if the thread title said "Gina Fords books are nonsense" then the thread would be pulled straight away. However threads that attack children with disabilities are allowed to stand. Oh why is that because Gina Ford is an adult (and can afford it), not a defenseless disabled child?
CCPCCP I don't see why parents of disabled children should sit in silence when they are their child's only advocate.

ccpccp:

You said 'Explain to me what part of Bretons post you think is worthy of being deleted by MN?

Really - you are starting to look very foolish.'

Breton is saying that ADHD is all in parents' heads. So he is denying that people's children have the issues they have, ergo they are not intrinsically the way they are (ie they have a condition) but they are the way they are as a result of bad parenting.

I don't know why I'm bothering seeing as you've also said you get off on laughing at parents of disabled children so I guess you must be a pretty sick individual.

I think this must be a board invasion. I hope so anyway.

loads of mouldie threads got pulled too, because of the hurt and frustration

at slubber's dessicated husk

and completely agree with bullet - say what you like about me, but start spouting crap about dd and the issues she faces? well, she can't (and probably won't ever be able to) defend herself, so someone has to try to make the world a nicer place for her to live in.

What has made me sad, out of all of this, is that I reported that thread to MNHQ, explaining clearly the effect that it has on myself as a mother of a child with SN, and others on this site, and asked them to consider (if they wouldn't delete the thread altogether) posting on the thread something about showing decency to posters with other backgrounds. I also wrote that with it being the Summer Holidays, lots of us were struggling as it is, without respite, and this is an extra strain we don't need.

What was the response? Nothing. Radiosilence. Not even a bland 'thanks for your comments but we won't do anything'.

To my mind, that's just a bit rude.

We have enough prejudice to be getting on with, without these sorts of threads.

Breton wasnt attacking the child. Scorn was aimed at the parents and doctors for overdiagnosing and medicating.

The thread is 1005 posts long. I dont think anyone was 'sitting in silence'. Thats what AIBU is for and about. Breton was being unreasonable and was attacked from all sides for it.

MN dont think the thread should be deleted, and nor do a lot of other posters, including myself. Smacks of censorship and those calling for it are thankfully in the minority.

Ladybiscuit - a tip for internet forums. After you read a post in the negative angry mental voice, try reading the same post again but imagine the poster is nice and friendly. You'll be surprised how much you read into a post based on what 'side' you think a poster is on.

For supporting the right to post freely on AIBU you have decided I am 'laughing at parents of disabled children'. Thats rather a leap I think.

Lougle: Huge apols if there was no response to your report - we do try to answer every single one that comes in.

We'll try to make sure it's tracked down and answered tomorrow.

Gahhhh! The OP didn't attack SN kids though, did it? It didn't ascribe any malice aforethought, and medicity, any blame on them. It didn't. It was a largely specious attack on diagnostics.

Annoying, yes, potentially offensive to those sick of hearing that particular line, maybe, but disablist? No.

splat

Doh! Mendacity, obv

ADHD/ADD is not nonsense it is a disability!!
Shall we suggest that black people are not really black and white people are not really white?

LadyBiscuit: If you are going to quote me please do it properly!

Breton NEVER said that ADHD is all in parents' heads!

I expressed the opinion that I did not accept that ADHD was a genuine disorder and went on to point out that explanations for this condition such as imbalances in the biochemistry of the brain or a genetic link were unsubstantiated and have, as yet, not been borne out by scientific evidence.

Of the many children I have seen that have been diagnosed with this condition I am of the opinion that it is environmentally and/or culturally generated and not a medical condition.

looploops. I see little point in stating my credentials as there is no way you could verify them.

ADHD is a life altering condition, for the child involved and for the wider family around them.

To say it is fictitious is an insult.

Bret sweetheart you are wrong simple as.

But then it's not all about what you said, Breton, so stop trying to make out it is.

Bret we are interested in your consultant psychiatrist qualifications thats all. When did you qualify?

amazing what some people like to use to have a tug over isn't it?

But Breton, I'm really struggling to understand what this is all about. Why are you so vehemently against a diagnosis of ADHD in particular? I don't get it.

'It's worth putting up with Breton's shit to watch you lot pop with impotent fury.'

So what does that statement mean if it's not laughing at parents of SN children who have taken offence? How should I read that as a nice and friendly post?

And Breton (fucking creepy that you're talking about yourself in the third person incidentally), you're arguing semantics. You're still saying that it's not a real condition and you're still not giving any answers to the questions about your credentials to make that assertion.

smallwhitecat "Breton's thread was entitled "AIBU to think ADHD is a load of rubbish""

No it wasn't!

Heavens can't some of you even do a simple cut and paste?

Bret you used the word nonsense erm can't see the difference in tautology myself...