MN is quite happy to let innacurate thread titles be posted that could promote discrimination against disabled children and their famillies

[wasuup3000]

Title say's it all.

silverfrog can you not get the support and information you need from mn but avoid threads that are likely to cause hurt and anger?

I have sn and aibu topics hidden (took a foray onto last 15 mins this evening) so I never see these sort of threads or posts. Do people really start troll threads in the sn topic?

pagwatch Tue 24-Aug-10 21:36:44

"what empathy was he seeking?

If I say that I think you child is obnoxious and you are a shit mother would you wish to engage politely with me?"

Yes, but nobody said that to you (at least not on the thread I started).

slubber, no we don't get trolling often on SN.

but to avoid the threads altogether - I'd have to hide most of the rest of MN! they pop up in aibu, chat, parenting, behaviou/development, education, in the news, etc etc.

If I hid all those, and stayed only in SN, it would only serve to increase my sense of isolation, tbh.

yes, i did arrive (and stay) here because of the SN support. But I like a chat, like anyone else does.

which means I am going to come across the twattish threads, and then it's back to the same old choice - don't click and let the atrocious views stand unchallenged (and maybe agreed with), or click, and challenge. again and again.

Seems that Breton is trying to make it all about him isn't he?

This is a bit more general than that. There appears to be a culture of denigrating disabled children on these boards, and I find that unacceptable.

Perhaps it might be worth considering keeping this discussion more general and productive as it was prior to these posts?

Like Silverfrog I don't particularly want to be confined to the sn boards. I'm isolated enough as it is without being pushed into a narrow area on here.

Here's a question to consider.

What right does anyone have to demand that they must be allowed to go through life without ever being offended?

oh ffs

and once again mnhq do nothing...

This is not being offended. This is defending my children from vicious diablist hate attacks.

"There appears to be a culture of denigrating disabled children on these boards, and I find that unacceptable."

It's this kind of hyperbole that helps no one's cause. A "culture of denigrating disabled children"? Seriously?? A "culture"?

Perhaps the reason some may not leap in on the side you want them to is their unwillingness to be allied by proxy to such knee-jerk reaction? Perhaps maybe?

actually I think Breton is helping make my point rather well

smug, patronising, glib, goading....

knee jerk? this is after WEEKS of this kind of posting!

Please don't think I'm suggesting you hide all the topics apart from sn, I'm not suggesting that at all (saying that I can only see chat, pets and camping so my mn is generally a crossness free utopia ).

I have no problems at all leaving twattish posts going unchalleneged. There is twatishness going on inside the heads of people everywhere all the live long day. Choosing to walk away from a thread, a topic or even mn for a while may mean that there is a reduction in mn twat intervention but it leaves me/you a little bit saner and happier to deal with the shit that is going on in rl.

Breton - serious question - what is your interest in this field? Are you qualified in any way in this area?

Please answer this.

Glitter I have reported the 2 worst offenders AGAIN to MNHQ whilst what they are doing may not be illegal it is most certainly immoral

He's a teacher iir.

"knee jerk? this is after WEEKS of this kind of posting!"

..and yet I could find an overwhelming number of posts that would disprove the accusation of their being a "clture" of denigration.

I'm sure you are/were upset, but inflating and inflaming a situation will actually harm any good work you may hope to promote.

Breton-you should be ashamed of yourself.

Like I said before, what makes you think that you are in position to talk about ADHD, when clearly you don?t have a clue what ADHD means for each individual.

You can express yourself, however you never listened to parents who have children with ADHD when they explained clearly to you how ADHD affects their dc, but continued to insult them very badly with your ignorance.

Glitterknickers

I don't see what you see in terms of 'disablist' threads.

There are always going to be morons about who get off on being 'controversial'

But the overwhelming majority of posters are not 'disablist'

Ignorant, yes (am including myself in this) but prejudiced, no.

:gets feeling she knows heracles in real life again:

DS1 is a good filter of people, online and in real life.

I think there are conversations to be had around medicating children (I have them in my head mainly - about risperidone in ds1's case- I don't remotely trust big pharma, my kids have had paracetamol and not much else but I do worry that my distrust means that ds1 misses out on something that could help his anxiety and compulsions - which are far more of a problem than his severe autism and severe LD's combined). But there was no way Breton was interested in a conversation - he just wanted to note how crap parents of kids with challenging behaviours are. I come across enough of those in RL (even the fact that aged 11 ds1 can't talk at all and doesn't understand sentences isn't enough to stop the 'all he needs is a good slap' brigade).

:and breathe:

Glitter/Hobnob - just WHAT are you reporting?

Explain to me what part of Bretons post you think is worthy of being deleted by MN?

Really - you are starting to look very foolish.

I'd love to be able to walk away, slubber.

but this is my life we're talking about.

I get the tuts and frowns all day long.

I get told repeatedly my dd is rude when she doesn't answer people, or when she answers inappropriately (such as saying "which foot? left or right?" by way of greeting. it makes sense to her )

I get frozen out if we go to story time at the library, and ignored in the supermarket.

I got looked at with pity when i couldn't stop dd picking up the sweets that another child had dropped in the pick and mix bit of the shop at legoland at the weekend (had my hands full, and my "NO!" was, quite unsurprisingly ignored) and then patronisingly told "it's only a couple. maybe she should have them more often - she was very keen to get her hands on them" by the parent of the child who had dropped them, who was not bothering to tidy them up herself.

I get ignored at school gates (well not anymore, now that dd is at SN school), becasue no one quite knows what to sya to me.

It isn't as easy as suggesting walking away. because leaving the threads unchallenged all the time? that's silently condoning twattish views, imo. and because there are not enough people saying "oi, shut up, twat" as it is, leaving the impression that it is ok to spout Daily Fail nonsense.

semicolon.... I am aware that actually the disablist posters are in the minority, it's more the fact the posts are allowed to remain whilst the attitude persists alongside.

If I'm 'inflaming' it's to make people aware that unacceptable posts are being made and left to remain.

loopyloops; What field?

CP I am happy to look foolish I feel that certain posters are goading some very vulnerable people on here. Their posts are inflammatory and several have already been deleted. As I have not disclosed openly my comments to MNHQ you have no idea what my issue with these posters is and so I suggest you mind your own business.