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MN is quite happy to let innacurate thread titles be posted that could promote discrimination against disabled children and their famillies

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wasuup3000 · 24/08/2010 16:10

Title say's it all.

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TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 25/08/2010 23:01

Oops - double post.

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Heracles · 26/08/2010 00:36

Or perhaps - shock! - more than one person sees combined assault as bullying? I know I do and I'm reasonably sure I'm no one but me on here.

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Nope, just me here! Smile

Claw3 · 26/08/2010 03:12

Pretty sure i will get last post because of the time! (ds doesnt sleep)

Thecolition - what was your point that needed explaining, sorry ive missed it im afraid?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 26/08/2010 06:10

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 26/08/2010 06:12

and heracles.are we only allowed to be pissed off one at a time? What a crock.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 26/08/2010 06:15

maybe we could have a ticket system so you can't take issue with a certain poster at same time? Seriously,get a life.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 26/08/2010 06:16

or maybe we can't be annoyed at all? That's it!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 26/08/2010 06:22

heracles and ccp-so you two are not banding together but merely having same opinion? Are you two bullies? You would be,by your own standards of two people having a hostile opinion at same time. Ridiculous isn't it. Off to have a life.

Xenia · 26/08/2010 08:14

They are always difficult decisions to take but on the whole sites want to keep most users happy or users will go.

So any site with sense does bar some people. That always smacks of censorship which I don't like and I'm from the school of thought that if you're subject to criticism as I certainly have been, that tends to do you good, toughen you up, helps you develop either an ability to ignore or else to argue back if there is rational argument presented to you. People in groups where others simply butter them up all the time in a protective cocoon probably do benefit from being taken out of that cosy protected world for a time. That of course can apply to me in my middleclass relatively well off life as much as any other group.

pagwatch · 26/08/2010 08:23

ccpccp
I am finding all the attention from you quite charming but it seems a bit much that you are now re-inventing history in order to maintain my interest

THIS thread had quite early on become a reasonable one with obviously strong feelings on both sides, but with discussion and debate and with developing ideas and exchanges ( it would seem churlish to pint out other than you pretty much only contributing to tell wassup to shut the fuck up, so I won't).
Then Breton turned up again at about page 11 to start some nonsense about a homophobic bullying child using ADHD as an excuse.
As he did this after already being warned about his actions on the other thread, he was banned a few pages later.

If you want to read the thread I have not actually asked for censorship, nor did I ask for breton to be banned. I said several times i did not believe that SN should operate outside the usual rules of trolling and other restrictions to mumsnet use.
I was happy to call him a cunt, quite a lot. which he is.

So whilst you are obviously enjoying trying to envision me as some kind of all powerful SN dissent destroyer (oo-eer) you are making yourself look stupid but proving that you haven't actually been interested in engaging with the thread at all but just standing on the touchline throwing shit like a bored toddler. Which is nice for you I am sure but ultimately seems to be just because I happen to think you are a small minded twat ( and I am sure you think no better of me).

I am enjoying your posture as defender of the people though - all righteous indignation and concern for small minded men in pullovers trlling at mums with difficult circumstances, and faux concern for a woman you were happy to watch taunted.

CrunchyStarlight · 26/08/2010 09:07

'People in groups where others simply butter them up all the time in a protective cocoon probably do benefit from being taken out of that cosy protected world for a time. That of course can apply to me in my middleclass relatively well off life as much as any other group.'

Xenia, I am amongst the SN lot and they are the toughest people I know. They have had to be. They are also amongst the most vulnerable people I know, because, unlike you they have very little access to power, resources and money.

They are here, challenging the issue because if they don't no-one else will, not because they are a bunch of over-sensitive whingers.

2shoes · 26/08/2010 10:20

Xenia I think you will find MN rarely ban anyone, in fact they have on suspended Brenton!!

as always people seem to miss the point, most people imo are not trying to impose censorship, just asking people to have a bit of consideration.
these constant digs at our children (who we love) are just wearing.
and imo so are the constant pleas for us to educate,

Heracles · 26/08/2010 10:23

"and heracles.are we only allowed to be pissed off one at a time? What a crock."

No, being pissed off is fine, agreeing with each other that someone is out of line is somewhat inevitable, but ganging up to abuse a person (rather than the things he says), calling on each other (and others) to contact MN to get someone removed, personal abuse: that's bullying. That ADD thread was chock full of that shit.

I disagree wholeheartedly with what Breton et al had to say, but I was mostly left with a nasty taste in my mouth at the reaction she/he drew, and I certainly didn't want to be associated with such behaviour, so I was one of those being moaned about on this thread who sat on their hands and cherry-picked the replies that took the time to engage.

2shoes · 26/08/2010 10:47

so if something is wrong you can't tell people to report???
who died and made you queen??
sometimes the only way to get someone to listen is to do it on mass.
as for bullying, I think only a person who has never been bullied or seen the results of it could call that bullying.

Claw3 · 26/08/2010 12:48

The only one stifling any debate, with his/her pointless, disruptive comments was the poster who was banned.

2shoes · 26/08/2010 12:50

claw imo you are right, we can never have a debate about sn without it being hijacked by bigots and trolls.
shame really as I would love to learn more about things like ADHD and ODD, as I know nothing,

Claw3 · 26/08/2010 13:17

2shoes and as for Bretton being bullied, how ridiculous!

He deliberately set out to offend and provoke people and he got the reaction he wanted.

Im no expert on ADHD/ODD either, (ds has ASD and SPD) although i did read quite a bit about various disorders, before ds was diagnosed, just in case!

Tiredmumno1 · 26/08/2010 14:56

I only know of one other that has been banned from mn,

so it obviously isnt a regular thing

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2shoes · 26/08/2010 17:02

Altinkum please tell me that was a joke.

CrunchyStarlight · 26/08/2010 17:34

yes 2shoes, just take it as a joke, - har har. Let the thread die with the poster who caused it.

ccpccp · 26/08/2010 17:41

Pagwatch - thanks for the long post.

Nope - nothing against you. And every post I've made harks back to the original OP - which is a discussion of whether MN should allow so called disablist threads to stand.

I think its over now though following a wave of post deletions by Mumsnet. They even did one of mine - though I cant remember what it said. It looks to be anything MaryZ related (or perhaps swearing?)

Tiredmumno1 · 26/08/2010 18:31

I dont think any of mine were deleted

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