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[wasuup3000]

Title say's it all.

the clue is in the name - it is a statement of special educational needs

So you work with emotionally disturbed children the TCNY, explains a lot.

Coalition - "The original statement doesn't say anything about whether these parents actually succeed in getting their children diagnosed. They might get statemented, but for other issues that may well actually be partly the parents fault, but which mean the children need extra support"

Very few children receive a statement without a diagnosis. The ones that do usually have blatantly obvious physical disabilities or severe learning difficulties.

Before receiving a diagnosis or a statement, bad parenting as the cause of difficulties is ruled out.

TCNY works with emotionally disturbed children? That's scary

So TCNY it is ok for it to be written on mumsnet that parents whose children have ADHD are shit parents who have little fuckers? Even though its not very nice to say it out loud its okay to type it out load in a public arena?

wassup3000/cornsillky - You are ignoring the actual content of my posts. I am saying nothing about the absolute rate of occurrence of these things. I am saying that it is larger than zero, which is all that the original post said.

I don't that that saying 'That's disablist! You can't say that!' is a helpful response to that statement. I think that what is more useful, is

'Yes people might try and do that, but they won't succeed because of x,y and z, it's very few people anyway, so really that's not a point that's relevant to whether or not ADHD exists or not.'

Coalition - it would be extrememly unlikely, ime that a child would get a statement for that.

my dd is severely autistic. we have fought for 3 years to get her a statement (she is only 6 now), and she had to start schol without one, and be left floundering to prove she needed one.

and even now her statement doesn't actually lis tthe support she needs, or how to address that support. we had to threated legal action to even get htis far - actually more than threaten, we had to start the process. our LA copped ot and settled before the case was heard, but only because settling before is better for their PR than losign the case, iyswim?

statements are increasingly hard to come by for severely disabled children, and most parents are told bollocks like "oh, this LA doesn't give statements any more". and then, unless they are lucky and are told otherwise (eg by others in the same position - here on MN) all they can do is accept they are being told that in good faith.

How can you not know what a Statement is if you work in that field??

TCNY You are a shit parent and your child is a little fucker. Nice eh?

Wassup3000 - Yes, because you are adults who have chosen to come to a forum with a policy of minimal moderation, where as my daughter has to put up with me whether she want's to or not.

(I haven't actually said that, nor do I believe it. Just in case you weren't paying attention to my posts)

lmao
I have a son who has ASD, 'fictional' ADHD, is unable to walk more than 50 metres without pain so has a blue badge. He's incontinent and has no perception of danger, indeed he's attempted to throw himself down the stairs on an impulse.

I can't get him statemented even though the school admit they can't keep him safe without one. Ed psych has rated him as zero on some learning centiles.

But never mind, maybe I should take a trip to the magical statement shop?

Exactly TCNY children can't stick up for themselves can they against views such as yours.

LadyBiscuit/Cornsillky - Well that would be because I DON'T work with emotionally disturbed children. Well, not unless you count some of my colleagues.

It's a piece of hyperbole from wassup3000. They seem to think that I should think the sun shines out of daughters arse at all times.

wassup3000 - The views that you maintain I have even though I've said I don't have them you mean?

AND TCNY views such as yours, Bretons, katiestar, mrscrafty's are in the "real" world. As parents we have to put up with comments and looks everyday. You sit there at your computer and say its OK. You are wrong.

Riven, exactly my mum told me from an early age 'just because you can say something, doesnt mean you should'.

wassup3000 - Which views of mine are you objecting to now? That poster on a minimally moderated forum should be moderated minimally?

TCNY your daughter has to put up with you whether she wants to or not. Children with ADHD have to put up with comments and views such as yours whether they want to or not.

You are wasting your time TheCoalitionNeedsYou.

ADHD thread is still there and hopefully MNHQ will have the sense to leave it alone.

All thats left here is bitter lashing out and the ever present drone of 'you're a disablist'.

truth hurts?

Children are vulnerable and unable to defend themselves TCNY that is why views that you support are indeed disabilist and whatever the forum there is no excuse for attacking children.

ccpccp you are wasting your time.

Glitterknickaz/Riven/Silverfrog/Claw3 - I've not been involved in statementing at all, so I wasn't aware of how bad the situation is.

I think that your responses are much more useful, interesting and helpful responses that just saying the original statement is disabilist.

TCNY did I say disabilist and academically challenged?