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MN is quite happy to let innacurate thread titles be posted that could promote discrimination against disabled children and their famillies

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wasuup3000 · 24/08/2010 16:10

Title say's it all.

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wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:04

Is that a personal attack or fact TCNY oh yes it is a fact.

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Claw3 · 25/08/2010 10:05

Thecoalition, exactly my point. Yet i could write you are all a bunch of wankers, which is also not a personal attack and MN would delete if someone objected to it.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 25/08/2010 10:08

wassup3000 - So which part of the statement is inaccurate?

Are there none of very few children with bad parents?

Are they all able to see the link between this and their children's behavior?

Do none of them try and blame this on recognized disorders?

I'm not saying that the statement isn't offensive, or that it shouldn't be challenged (the number of instances of this happening is low/diagnosis will winnow them out etc)

But it is a factually accurate, and legal statement to make.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 25/08/2010 10:09

Claw3 - Yes and that is the declared policy. Otherwise we couldn't say all Tories are wankers.

cornsillky · 25/08/2010 10:10

Parents may try to blame their child's behaviour on ADHD but they won't get a diagnosis.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 25/08/2010 10:11

corksillky - Exactly.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:11

No it is not TCNY not at all. Are you children little fuckers? Is it Ok for me to ask you that?

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wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:12

Are Your

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cornsillky · 25/08/2010 10:13

er... not really coalition - your point makes no sense.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:13

cornsilky then their child does not have ADHD or ADD so what is your point exactly?

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cornsillky · 25/08/2010 10:15

My point is that ADHD is not overdiagnosed and folk like Breton who say they see many chn who don't really have ADHD are probably exaggerating.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:17

Thanks cornsilky I figured it out after I saw your next post to TCNY

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wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:17

Good point cornsilky too.

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cornsillky · 25/08/2010 10:17

IME parents who think their child is affected by SN and express this are often right.It's not an easy thing for a parent to do. No parent in their right mind would want their child to have SN/SEN.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:18

Exactly cornsilky

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TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 25/08/2010 10:20

wassup3000 - Well sometimes she is TBH.

Can you tell me which part of the statement is inaccurate or illegal?

cornsillky- Yes - your response was a sensible and reasonable one. The original statement doesn't say anything about whether these parents actually succeed in getting their children diagnosed. They might get statemented, but for other issues that may well actually be partly the parents fault, but which mean the children need extra support.

The statement that was originally made is true - it's just not very important.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:22

TCNY oh dear you call your own child a little fucker! That is abuse!

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cornsillky · 25/08/2010 10:22

'They might get statemented, but for other issues that may well actually be partly the parents fault, but which mean the children need extra support.'
Do you realise how difficult it is to get a statement? There is no way that a statement would be given due to bad parenting.

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:23

Oh yeah parents just go to the shop and buy a statement. You haven't a clue TCNY at all!!

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TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 25/08/2010 10:23

Well I don't say it to her face obv.

cornsillky · 25/08/2010 10:23

lol wasuup - my thoughts exactly!

wasuup3000 · 25/08/2010 10:24

Why don't you say it to her face TCNY?

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sarah293 · 25/08/2010 10:26

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TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 25/08/2010 10:26

cornsillky - So a child who has suffered physical and/or emotional abuse/neglect at home wouldn't get statemented? I confess that this isn't an area I am familiar with so I might get the terms wrong, but presumably they would need extra support - is this not called a statement in these circumstances?

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 25/08/2010 10:27

wassup3000 - Because it wouldn't be very nice would it? I don't say out loud everything that I think.