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To think my dd is NOT A LIKEABLE PERSON??

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proudnsad · 13/08/2010 08:31

She's six. She's a feisty, intelligent, wild-haired tom boy with a laugh like Barbara Windsor.
But she is so horrible! I don't mean tantrumy and difficult (though she is those things too). She is rude, anti-social, unfriendly, has no empathy and is soooo selfish.
Her older bro is a sweet-natured, calm, kind kid. It upsets him how unkind and ungrateful she is to him.
She routinely wakes us all up in the morning, sometimes during the night, with huge
meltdowns along the lines of 'I'VE GOT A BOGEY UP MY NOSE' or 'I'VE SPILT MY WATER' or 'DB'S BREATHING'.
She refuses to do anything she's told. She rarely talks to other dc who come to chat, in fact she fixes them with this chilling look that would scare Beelzebub.
I could go on forever. As I started writing this I realised I didn't know where to start or stop.
I tried talking to her this morning after she woke us up in a massive strop because she couldn't get her dressing gown down. Cuddled her (that's one good thing,she loves affection and is very cuddly funnily enough) asked her about all the anger. But she's six, how the hell does she know how to explain it?
I try to praise and encourage and I tell her about much I love her.
But she's just not one of life's natural nice people and I don't want that to affect her experiences as she gets older iuswim?
Oh my god she's doing it again, gotta go!!!!

OP posts:
CheshireDing · 02/06/2012 03:35

OLD THREAD ALERT!!!!!!!!!!

Preggersntired · 02/06/2012 07:56

Dammit I've just read the whole thread which was fascinating... How I'd the feisty 6 yo doing? I guess she's 7/8 now??!

Proudnscary · 02/06/2012 08:00

Hi I wrote this two years ago!!!!!

She is 8 tomorrow!!

PooPooInMyToes · 02/06/2012 08:47

I did realise it was an old thread op. Just wondered if things have improved and changed much?

TheSecondComing · 02/06/2012 09:00

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TheHouseOnTheCorner · 02/06/2012 09:25

Proud how is she now? I ask because she sounds SO much like my nearly 8 year old DD!

NonAstemia · 02/06/2012 11:13

I read the OP and thought 'ooh that really resonates - DD can be like that'. I read on and found a post from me describing DD. That's when I realised how ole the thread is. Grin

proud I'd also love to know how your DD is doing now...

Proudnscary · 02/06/2012 11:37

Hi all

Thanks for asking.

It's unbelievably ironic and poignant that this thread was resurrected today as my dh and I have just had a long talk about her, on the eve of her eighth birthday.

Have we made good progress since I posted this? No not really. It's one step forward, two back.

I try very hard to support and help her. To have fun with her. Distract her. Talk to her about her feelings. Adopt new strategies such as venting her anger on a punch bag or 'angry drawings'. Reward charts. Punishments.

She just has this unbelievable temper - she is frequently rude, aggressive, furious if asked to do anything she doesn't want to do. She is also still wonderful and funny and (I fervently hope) very happy and fun a lot of the time. I love the bones of her.

She does very well at school and is very bright (yeah, yeah all Mumsnetter's kids are gifted!!!!). She has a lot of friends and interests.

So there you go!

TheHouseOnTheCorner · 02/06/2012 11:50

Bright kids get frustrated sometimes...she's got friends, she's doing well at school....so you've done a good job!

Some people (me included) have tempers and are grumpy....that's life! My DD is grumpy too and lazy and messy...it's a bugger isnt it?

Proudnscary · 02/06/2012 12:10

Thanks House, what a lovely post

CalamityKate · 02/06/2012 14:57

You could be describing my DS2 ( 9 ). I often despair of him having friends when he's older because he's just so bloody stroppy - with us and other kids.

The upside is he's got enough personality for about 15 people and he's INCREDIBLY loving and affectionate, especially at night when we're having our bedtime cuddles. Like a different child. Mornings however - .

Halfway · 02/06/2012 15:16

I recognise myself as a child in your daughter. I started out fiesty, self-assured, wanting to carry out my own will, and not really understanding why anyone would try to stop me. I don't think I really grasped that I was a child (despite my parents being strict disciplinarians), but more than that, I didn't see a way out... I didn't realise that my life wouldn't always be a battle of control and that one day I would be the master of my own life.

Because of this, I had an immense amount of internal rage and frustration. I felt trapped and helpless.

I had no way to articulate what I was feeling or why I was feeling it, and the more I acted out the more I could feel my parents withdrawing emotionally from me, and/or (in my eyes) trying to 'break' something in me. The message (in my child mind) was very clear - there was something seriously wrong with me!

It was then that a long period of depression started (around the age of 12), and my battle with my parents turned inward (they had shut down by this point anyway), and I began trying to 'break' myself down with long streams of mental self-abuse, and later physical self-abuse. I saw myself as flawed, and the cause of my own rejection.

As an adult, I have overcome a lot of my own self-hatred, but don't think I will ever be able to fully fix what I did to my own self-esteem, nor feel confident enough to ever again fully express the internal person that I really am.

When I look back on how things might have been done differently when I was a child (not saying this would necessarily apply to your daughter, but might be worth considering) - I think it would have helped if my parents had:-

  • Acknowledged to me that they knew I was finding life frustrating, encouraged me to talk about how I was feeling, and sympathised.
  • Reminded me that life would not always be the same for me, and that one day I would grow into an adult and then would be able to make all my own decisions (seems obvious, but this just didn't really occur to my child mind!)
  • Told me that their job of looking after me was just to help me learn what I needed to learn to be an adult in the future, and that the outside world has rules for adults too.

This is just my own theorising, but I really think knowing there was a light at the end of the tunnel would really have helped me, that I wasn't 'trapped' forever, and that my parents were trying to understand and explain my own struggle to me (because I couldn't understand it), and that they were my teachers, not my jailers. It was essentially a struggle for personal freedom.

Halfway · 02/06/2012 15:19

Oh, and reminded me that they were on my side, in as many ways as possible (lots of physical affection would have really helped - I badly craved it, and moreso as it was withdrawn).

ArielThePiraticalMermaid · 02/06/2012 15:22

Haven't read the whole thread (sorry) but please try not to let this show. Do your best to let your daughter see you love her and like her. My mother often told me I wasn't a nice person as a child. It was horrible :(

ArielThePiraticalMermaid · 02/06/2012 15:25

I'm sorry Blush. I should have read everything before posting.

NonAstemia · 02/06/2012 15:26

Halfway that's a really honest and insightful post, and helps me understand my DD a bit better - I think she would probably identify with some of what you experienced.

Wendywishes · 02/06/2012 15:26

Your posts,though very old, fairly accurately describe my ds,12,when he was this age. I too would be interested to know how things are now OP.

LeQueen · 02/06/2012 17:47

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Proudnscary · 02/06/2012 20:32

Thank you all so much for your positive and kind responses.

As I said it's quite emotional seeing this thread again, two years on, just as she's turning eight.

Halfway - I'm going to print your post out and read it again, and show it to dh, as I found it so enlightening and helpful.

LeQueen - ditto really. What a hopeful and brilliant post.

lovebunny · 02/06/2012 20:34

get her re-homed. what hope does the poor child have with a parent as negative as you?
if re-homing is a non-starter, get counselling for both of you (separately). i'm not joking. with an attitude like yours you've probably already ruined her life. give her some hope. get help.

KatMumsnet · 02/06/2012 21:00

Just so everyone knows, this is an old thread from two years ago that has resurrected. We think it's best to let lie and fall back into the archive.

PooPooInMyToes · 02/06/2012 21:10

Why?

HippoPottyMouth · 02/06/2012 21:22

It's nice to see an updat from the OP though.

Apart from lovebunny's ridiculous post I've found it all quite heartwarming!

Proud, I think you have a lovely sounding handful on your hands :)

thingamajig · 02/06/2012 21:23

Yes, why? All but one of the posts is positive and helpful, and it is interesting to see how things have changed in the intervening two years.

thingamajig · 02/06/2012 21:26

I have reported KatMumsnet's post as inappropriate.
This is a brilliant thread and has given me food for thought regarding my mum, myself and my daughter.