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To think if Ian Huntley gets compensation

217 replies

Marjee · 31/07/2010 22:50

he should give it to the government to pay towards the prison service?

This has made me so angry so apologies if its long and ranty but ffs
This evil man killed two innocent children and now according to the news he is likely to gain at least 20k! I'm sure I've read somewhere that if someone on benefits wins the lottery they are expected to pay back some money, why should this be any different? I wonder how much taxpayers money is going towards keeping him behind bars? What a shame his attacker didn't finish the job! Ugh disgusting vile evil man, whats he going to do with that money anyway?!
Sorry ladies I did warn you, anyway I feel better for having got that off my chest!

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expatinscotland · 31/07/2010 22:51

He shouldn't get jack.

compo · 31/07/2010 22:51

He won't get it so I wouldn't get het up about it

EmmaKateWH · 31/07/2010 22:55

Obviously no one wants to see him get any money! But (and please don't all jump down my throat because this is simply the fact of the matter) the prison service owe him a duty of care (and owe all other prisoners a duty of care), to take whatever steps are necessary to protect him from reasonably foreseeably risks to his safety. I don't know the circumstances of what happened, but if he is able to prove that it was reasonably foreseeable that he would be injured in the circumstances that the prison service placed him in, then he is legally entitled to compensation for his injuries - the same as anyone else would be. This is legally a totally different issue from what he did to get into prison in the first place. He gets the same treatment as any other prisoner, and has the same rights.

IMoveTheStars · 31/07/2010 22:57

I was talking about this with DP earlier.

The prison/probation service has a duty to provide a safe environment to the people in their custody/care. It is not acceptable for some random inmate to decide that it's their job to slit the throat of another inmate. It doesn't matter what they've done, or how repulsive they are.

Of course Ian Huntly is the fucking devil, obviously. I'm in no way defending him or his actions.

IMoveTheStars · 31/07/2010 22:57

xposts Emma

kayah · 31/07/2010 22:59

I wonder how much his lawyers would get...

Greensleeves · 31/07/2010 22:59

what jareth said

standards, innit

BitOfFun · 31/07/2010 23:01

He won't get it. But yes, it's reasonable to think you are not at risk of death in prison.

Hopefully he will be inside so long that he can only spend it on eighty cigs a day and die as a result. Ahem. Not really.

DuelingFanjo · 31/07/2010 23:01

The prison service should be making sure that prisoners are not excercising their own form of justice to other peisoners. Then all this compensation stuff wouldn't be happening.

What Jareth said basically.

EmmaKateWH · 31/07/2010 23:02

jareth - you are totally right.

Pioneer · 31/07/2010 23:02

I think the duty of care should be more about the prevention of inmates carrying out the attacks, rather than the protection of people like Ian Huntly.
I could be wrong, but perhaps it is his solicitor who is pushing for the compensation?

Pioneer · 31/07/2010 23:03

x-post kayah!

2shoes · 31/07/2010 23:04

it is sick though
that at a time when cuts are being made this scum can get money(and the legal bill paid)
wtf did he think would happen to hi when he murderd to little girls....

EmmaKateWH · 31/07/2010 23:04

Pioneer - as a matter of law the duty of care is to safeguard Ian Huntley from reasonably foreseeable risks.

nickschick · 31/07/2010 23:04

I think that there should be some kind of attatchment to things like this and any monies made from the result of the crime (films,books newspaper deals etc)should be payable to the victims family and then any compensation claims the funds should be donated to the victims family too.

Its very dodgy judging like this and I recall seeing pictures of Ian Huntleys cell all decorated with Thomas the tank engine - is that true? and if it is is it right?.

Pioneer · 31/07/2010 23:06

I understand that EmmaKate, but I'm just saying that is my opinion .

EmmaKateWH · 31/07/2010 23:06

He isn't making money from his crime - if he got any money it would be compensation for injuries suffered as a result of the prison service's negligence. Obviously he is only in prison, and therefore being injured, because of his crime, but legally, they are separate issues.

2shoes · 31/07/2010 23:07

can the girls parents then sue him?

EmmaKateWH · 31/07/2010 23:10

in theory they could sue him. The civil standard of proof is balance of probabilities, and since it has already been proven beyond reasonable doubt they would likely succeed. The level of compensation parents get for the death of a child is surprisingly low though. Usually victims of crime don't sue the perpetrator because most criminals don't have any assets. However, if he got a big payout from the prison service he would have some assets!
They will have had a payment from the criminal injuries compensation authority, but again, that probably won't be very much. That being said, there is obviously no amount of money that would compensate them in any event.

kayah · 31/07/2010 23:13

Pioneer

duty of care and safeguarding - I thing those have nothing to do with requested compensation

compensation is to make his life better, after his trauma or whathever

the problem is that it has been allowed to happen and why - I agree that needs investigation, but not the money into his and his lawyers pockets

blackberryway · 31/07/2010 23:13

He's already had compensation for an earlier attack so you'd think the prison service would have learned. Perhaps the fact that he knows he is in more or less for life means he has more reason than most to give them some reason to protect him, even if it's only a financial one.

bosch · 31/07/2010 23:16

I'm trying to think through how you decide what compensation a prisoner might expect to get for being hurt in prison. On the face of it, you'd expect to be kept fairly safe in prison - rather more so than anyone just walking down the street. So if, in spite of that level of 'safety', you're hurt, you might assume that someone has made a mistake and the organisation must pay compensation.

And I also know that if a british person had been hurt in a foreign jail, the same people on the radio today, bemoaning the legal system that allows Huntley to take legal action (which might not be successful), would be demanding compensation etc for the british person.

And yet, i can't make sense of the possibility that Huntley might get more compensation for being hurt than the parents of holly and jessica got for the murder of their children.

AgentZigzag · 31/07/2010 23:16

The emotional side of me agrees wholeheartedly with you OP, but the rational side knows that loss of liberty is his punishment, and should only be his punishment.

It was an awful story to unfold, but at least the fucker was caught and put somewhere away from us, although that's little comfort to the girls families.

Pioneer · 31/07/2010 23:17

The parents of the little girls got £11,000 each.

It has been estimated he could get up to £100,000 .

Disclaimer: This info came from Sky News

How hard must it be if you are a prison warden though and you know you have to safeguard a child murderer - I could not do that job.

lady007pink · 31/07/2010 23:19

This is the same b**tard that tried to commit suicide a few times!

If he wins, i hope the parents of these 2 girls countersue him for their horrific loss!

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