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To think if Ian Huntley gets compensation

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Marjee · 31/07/2010 22:50

he should give it to the government to pay towards the prison service?

This has made me so angry so apologies if its long and ranty but ffs
This evil man killed two innocent children and now according to the news he is likely to gain at least 20k! I'm sure I've read somewhere that if someone on benefits wins the lottery they are expected to pay back some money, why should this be any different? I wonder how much taxpayers money is going towards keeping him behind bars? What a shame his attacker didn't finish the job! Ugh disgusting vile evil man, whats he going to do with that money anyway?!
Sorry ladies I did warn you, anyway I feel better for having got that off my chest!

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TitsalinaBumSquash · 02/08/2010 17:11

JarethTheGoblinKing if your interested in Crim Psyc then we should talk, i have spent my life studying it!

I totally understand where your coming from OP, Ian Huntley did the unthinkable he robbed 2 little girls of thier lives and robbed thier families and friends to, and yes now he is whinging about someone trying to kill him... he is a Cretin of the highest form, ditto for Ian Brady ect ect.

However as a society we cant pick and choose who to protect and who not to, think of a case where someone say a lady has been subjected to viscious abuse for years by her husband snaps and kills him, im guessing the public would want her protected in prison? But if we had taken away all huanrights for muderers then she would still be a murderer and therefore be unprotected.

porcamiseria · 02/08/2010 17:20

but he is protected! he is mainly in solitary

said lady would get thrown to the crowds, no solitary for her

solitary as IH costs shit loads more

Marjee · 02/08/2010 17:31

Titsalina I totally agree, my point was about the money and the fact that he won't be expected to pay anything back for the years hes been fed and watered courtesy of the taxpayer. This thread has got so long and off subject now!

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Dummyhunter · 02/08/2010 17:37

shame the bloke who attacked him didn't finish the job - then we wouldn't be having this conversation - not a popular opinion, but its my opinion. As for due care - credit to the prison officer that has to be near a sick creep like Huntley.

PosieParker · 02/08/2010 17:40

He is a vile man that most of us wish he had a nasty end to his disgusting little life, but what sort of society would we become if we diminished anyone's human rights for whatever reason? I think he should have to have all assets handed over to the state.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 02/08/2010 17:41

DummyHunter - I dunno I think it IS a pretty popular opinion, just a stupid one.

PosieParker · 02/08/2010 17:44

Why is it a stupid opinion?

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 02/08/2010 17:48

PosieParker - Because validating attempted murder is no way to encourage respect for the law.

PosieParker · 02/08/2010 17:59

But the desire for wanting him dead is emotional justice and how people feel not anything to do with a real accountable justice system.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 02/08/2010 22:17

Posieparker - yes, like I said, stupid.

scottishmummy · 02/08/2010 22:46

ih has no asserts minimum wage goon not don corleone."I think he should have to have all assets handed over to the state" errr like his what?estate?vineyard?ill gotten yacht

behave

Heracles · 02/08/2010 23:00

I'm sure the guy who attacked him was a real saint too...

Dummyhunter · 03/08/2010 07:32

Thecoalitionneedsyou - as I said my opinion! As you said a popular one. An opinion is an opinion. I could be childish and say that your opinion is stupid but I wont sink that low.

PosieParker - I think you described my sentiment better than I. Thank you.

Heracles - no I don't think that the other chap was a saint.

porcamiseria · 03/08/2010 09:17

well if he does win, that girl can sue him so lets look at this as a win win?

I do often remebemr that sad story about sally clark, also done as a child killer. she got fuck all protection and had the shit bullied out of her in prison, then drank herself to death. makes me teary even now

where was her protection? err there was none.
god I am angry now, that sally clark story just gets to me

blackberryway · 03/08/2010 17:29

And I'll bet there were plenty of people ready to say she was 'a piece of shit'(copyrigh chipping in) and not worth bothering about.

addie81 · 03/08/2010 17:47

Sally Clark is a classic example of why we should treat all of our prisoners with basic human dignity and respect. Obviously the vast majority of prisoners will have committed the offence that they were convicted of - but subsequent successful appeals show that this is not always the case. There will inevitably be a small number of people in prison who are innocent. The same argument applies to not imposing capital punishment - inevitably we would end up executing a (small) number of innocent people - doesn't bear thinking about.

emy72 · 04/08/2010 09:45

I am really divided on this one.

Emotionally, as a mother, I couldn't honestly say how I would react if I had to live side by side with a man or woman who had done such despicable things to a child. I suspect I would be vile to them and would have no moral boundaries dictating the way I dealt with them on a daily basis.

It is a healthy emotion to have towards your own children and children in general, to protect them. It's a basic human instinct and a healthy one at that.

Rationally, I clearly do not believe a state should condone violence in its prisons or anywhere, and if it did it should legalise it by reintroducing the death sentence. So I am 50/50 on this one.

As a final point though, there is a feeling in modern society, that criminal offences, in particular ones against young children are not punished severely enough and this doesn't help in creating extreme and emotional reactions to these sorts of stories.

The public are not convinced that men or women who attack and/or kill children CAN be reabilitated into leading a normal life that does not pose a threat to the public.

And that is where the system needs a review in my opinion.

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