To think if Ian Huntley gets compensation

[Marjee]

he should give it to the government to pay towards the prison service?

This has made me so angry so apologies if its long and ranty but ffs
This evil man killed two innocent children and now according to the news he is likely to gain at least 20k! I'm sure I've read somewhere that if someone on benefits wins the lottery they are expected to pay back some money, why should this be any different? I wonder how much taxpayers money is going towards keeping him behind bars? What a shame his attacker didn't finish the job! Ugh disgusting vile evil man, whats he going to do with that money anyway?!
Sorry ladies I did warn you, anyway I feel better for having got that off my chest!

StrictlyTory - To be fair though, the people arguing that we should suspend human rights and the rule of law for someone just because we really, really don't like them ARE all fucking idiots.

it might be rude but its all true............!

thecoalition needs you - cross posts - but thanks for the support!

I'm with you EmmaKate.

I also agree with Emmakate - its quite a firm way of putting her view! but I do think what she says is right. Its alarming the number of people with daily mail/bnp type right wing views out there!

I agree with Emmakate too.

thanks for the support ladies. I am off before someone who doesn't understand the point accuses me of supporting Ian Huntley, which I suspect is likely to be the next turn this thread takes..............!

I agree that he shouldn't be assulted in prison and does have a right to be protected (even though he really is a disgusting worm of a man) but I don't agree that people should be told they are stupid and can't read for thinking differently.

As long as they are not threatening him they are free to express whatever opinion they like IMO

Thankfully, we are ruled by the law of priniciples, not moral outrage.

The prison service owe IH a duty of care to protect him as they have to protect all prisoners. If a so called civilised society turns a blind eye to violent attacks on its prisoner population, then we cannot complain when the recipients of this regime fail to be rehabiliated and continue that violence when they are released into the general population.

Observing the rule of law is not the same as condoning what IH did. Unfortunately, too many on this website allow they sanctimonious runaway moral outrage to obfuscate their ability to understand the principles of law.

StrictlyTory - People can express whatever opinion they like, and so can I - and my opinion is that if you can't see how suspending human rights and the rule of law for someone just because we really, really don't like them is a logical contradiction, and that therefore someone who holds THAT opinion is a fucking idiot.

Nice sentence structure there TCNY you fucking idiot.

EmmaKate - of course you are entitled to your views and I am sure you do not condone IH's actions. I've travelled the world, lived in three countries, teach two MFL and Business to A-level and appreciate that in a democracy the rule of law and protection of human rights are paramount. I'm afraid, though, that some very rare evil acts such as this mean that the majority of the public instinctively feel that the individual has forfeited any 'human rights' you would like to confer on him/her. The consequence of this is that the law is taken into the hands of the public who have lost faith in the justice system, leading efficiently to lynch mob rule. In order to protect all our freedom, a balance needs to be struck between all relevant stakeholders in the situation. The balance of opinion in the UK is currently not in favour of protecting the rights of offenders such as IH at the expense of the taxpayer and vulnerable children. I can't see this changing and hope that it doesn't.

BTW 'practice' = noun practise = verb
british = British
oyu = you

albertcamus - People's instincts are very poor guides to the best way to behave. It's why we invented the whole 'civilisation' thing.

TCNY - how civilised was it for Holly's mother not to be able to see her daughter's body for the last time due to its decomposition and the fact that IH had burnt it knowing full well that he was destroying the forensic evidence that linked him to it ?

Albertcamus - Not civilised at all. Did you leave a point out of your post though, I don't seem to be able to find one?

He was found guilty and is in prison, with virtually no hope of release in his lifetime.

So why have people lost faith in the justice system? What exactly were they hoping was going to happen to him?

Personally while I think that while the man's crimes were vile beyond words, I have no more revulsion for him than for the many many other people who murder children on a weekly basis in the UK and whose names we don't know because the tabloids don't go to town with the stories.

Actually, it isn't just the tabloids, the BBC etc are equally to blame.

We get told who to hate, and then told why. Yet the resaons are no more compelling for one child killer then they are for any other.

Duty of care is not the same thing as 'he must be protected round the clock, 24 hours a day'. They have a duty to take reasonable care, no more. Those responsible for the attacks should be sued, provided the prison service took reasonable care.

SomeGuy - Yes. And a court is deciding whether or not the Prison Service was fulfilling it's Duty of Care or not.

You can't sue someone for a criminal offence.

of course you can sue somebody for committing a criminal offence against you, what a silly thing to say, the criminal offence will also be a civil wrong. What happened with OJ?

OJ was in a different country with a different legal system.

swallowedAfly - yes - the court is deciding whether or not they did enough.

You can sue someone for damages resulting from a criminal offence though.

just because I see some poetic justice in IH getting shit kicked in prison, does not mean I am a Saudi-beheading-stoning-death-penalty lover by the way!

I just think that he will be reviled and hated in prison, and I think there is better use of our money that protecting him pver and above the protection given to other prisoners

many many others get hurt inside and they don't sue

albertcamus - I have a busy job, and I don't therefore have time to check MN posts through, so occasionally, there will be typos. I can assure that I understand the difference between a noun and a verb, but obviously it makes you feel big and clever to correct my typos - so go right ahead.