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To think if Ian Huntley gets compensation

217 replies

Marjee · 31/07/2010 22:50

he should give it to the government to pay towards the prison service?

This has made me so angry so apologies if its long and ranty but ffs
This evil man killed two innocent children and now according to the news he is likely to gain at least 20k! I'm sure I've read somewhere that if someone on benefits wins the lottery they are expected to pay back some money, why should this be any different? I wonder how much taxpayers money is going towards keeping him behind bars? What a shame his attacker didn't finish the job! Ugh disgusting vile evil man, whats he going to do with that money anyway?!
Sorry ladies I did warn you, anyway I feel better for having got that off my chest!

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edam · 01/08/2010 12:47

It'd be quite a neat solution if bed and board was deduced from any compensation award.

electra · 01/08/2010 13:25

Marjee - people have posted in favour of vigilante style mob rule. You are not the only one who has commented on the thread.

AlaskaNebraska · 01/08/2010 13:28

oh the thread has got to quoting
therefore lost all reason
im out #dragonsden

electra · 01/08/2010 13:28

ChippingIn - I don't recall that my responses were aimed specifically at your posts

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Marjee · 01/08/2010 13:34

Well said Alaska!

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electra · 01/08/2010 13:34

'I do NOT believe everyone has the right to life'

and if that's not uncivilised I don't know what is.

Look I am entitled to hold a different opinion which supports human rights. If you think 'certain people' are 'scum' and less worthy of rights you may as well vote for the the BNP.

Personally I don't want to take a step back in the direction of medieval barbarity. It's not a fitting example, nor would it ever bring those poor children back, or help their parents in any way.

You can disagree of course.

albertcamus · 01/08/2010 13:39

Used to believe in the death penalty for the likes of IH, but long may he live in fear of all around him. Kevin Wells' book Goodbye dearest Holly tells it how it was, including what the families were subjected to during the trials of the evil pair. As for compensation, agree that he should spend it on smoking himself to a slow painful death.

swallowedAfly · 01/08/2010 14:06

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Alouiseg · 01/08/2010 15:26

Prison is for punishment. Let's not forget that everyone in there did something seriously bad.

Food, shelter and clothing are provided...........anything else is a bonus.

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 01/08/2010 18:17

Well, not everyone in there did something seriously bad. I'm all for rehabilitation up to a point, but not in every case. Some prisoners really don't deserve to see the light of day again.

EmmaKateWH · 01/08/2010 22:10

All I can say is that I am glad the law of the UK is more civilised than some of the posters on this thread! Happily we are signatories to the European Convention of Human Rights, and practice the rule of law, as opposed to mob rule, so even though some of the people on this thread have some of the most despicable, appalling and ignorant views I have ever had the misfortune to read about criminal justice, it doesn't matter what they think, because the UK affords everyone human rights, no matter what they have done, and treats prisoners decently, both of which make me proud to be british, unlike those of oyu who think "real justice" would be Ian Huntley being murdered by a fellow prisoner whilst in the custody of the state.

poorbuthappy · 01/08/2010 22:18

I just find it odd that law abiding people who naturally grow old have to sell their houses and use their savings to be looked after in their old age...yet criminals who are so dangerous they can not be rehibilitated, have killed the most vunerable in society in the most horrendous way get to be looked after until they die for free!

It is a sick world we live in.

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 01/08/2010 22:21

I can't say Mr Huntley being disposed of would bother me in the slightest - I wouldn't bay for blood but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. You are welcome to your opinion about my views, of course, but I can't say they bother me either.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 01/08/2010 22:28

The law applies to everyone.

Maisiethemorningsidecat · 01/08/2010 22:31

In addition to having a Convention of Human Rights, perhaps the UN should publish a Convention of Responsibilities. I should imagine that wouldn't be quite so popular with some of our inmates.

ChippingIn · 01/08/2010 22:34

EmmaKate - if that's the case, you probably need to get out more.

shockers · 01/08/2010 22:35

Did Ian Huntley pay compensation to the families of the girls he murdered? As caretaker of their school, he, just as every other member of staff at the school, had a responsibility toward them... he not only failed, he committed the most awful and final crime he could commit against them. For which he was imprisoned.

The prisoner who attacked him was a lowlife like him. His sentence should be extended for attempted murder (it probably has been already) but the idea of Huntley gaining for his own crime ( if he hadn't committed it, he would never have been in the prison with the man who attacked him) is just outrageous.

But I think the powers that be are aware of that.

albertcamus · 02/08/2010 00:23

EmmaKate - I suggest you read Kevin Wells' factual account of this case, which includes full details of
Huntley's previous sex crimes against minors, and the
range of bleeding heart arguments he put forward to plead manslaughter in order to ult
imately get out again and continue enjoying his
life in this country with its 'rule of law' which
ensures that murderous paedophiles can enjoy their
freedom while children's freedom is removed by their
rightly terrified parents. I would, however, be interested to observe
the reaction of the rational 99% of the population for whom the 'rule of law' in this country as you
interpret it affords protection which he has
forfeited any right to. Why don't we let him out + see what
happens? Would you still be proud of your country if he killed again?

GothAnneGeddes · 02/08/2010 04:27

What annoys me, is that we have damaged and vulnerable young people in Young Offender's Institute, often in very poor conditions.

These are the inmates we should be investing in, to prevent them from re-offending.

Huntley, who should never be released, enjoys a far higher standard of living and now more money will be wasted on him.

porcamiseria · 02/08/2010 08:42

I really do not care if Ian Huntley gets done over time and time again in prison

there are better uses of tax payers money

end of

ILovePlayingDarts · 02/08/2010 10:09

If he gets any money, the girl he attacked before he killed Holly and Jessica has already said she'll sue for some of it, and quite right too. She only dropped her case previously because he had been declared insolvant.

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 02/08/2010 10:59

"murderous paedophiles can enjoy their
freedom while children's freedom is removed by their
rightly terrified parents."

I would question that parents removing their childrens freedom for fear of murderous paedophiles are 'rightly terrified' as the chances of any given child being killed by a third party is 0.008%, 0.004% if we exclude parents and 0.001% if we only consider strangers.

The chance of a child dieing on the roads is 0.01%

Sorcerer · 02/08/2010 10:59

Agree with GothAnneGeddes.

EmmaKateWH · 02/08/2010 11:15

Albertcamus - All prisoners have the same rights regardless of what they have done. If you can't understand that the reason he is in prison, is a separate issue from the treatment that he is entitled to get in prison, then you are not very bright. If you are suggesting that anything I said in any way condones anything that Ian Huntley did, or that I am less than incredibly sympathetic to the Wells and Chapman families, then perhaps you can't read properly either? In any event, fortunately you are not running the country and people with more brains and civility are. There are numerous other posters on the thread who are capable of understanding the reasons why in a civilised western democracy we treat our prisoners with certain rights no matter what they have done. Since you obviously can't, and don't like it, I can only suggest that you move somewhere where your views will be better represented. China, Zimbabwe and Saudi Arabia come to mind as possible options for you. Perhaps someone as ignorant as you doesn't understand what criminal justice is like in those places. Perhaps you should google amnesty international for a brief insight. I am bowing out and leaving you to your right wing lunacy. Its a waste of my time to try and engage with you on this subject - you don't have anything sensible to say about it.

StrictlyTory · 02/08/2010 12:05

Wow emmakate that is one seriously rude post

People don't agree with you so are 'not very bright', 'can't read properly' and are lacking in brains.... Interesting that for someone so concerned with rights you are so little concerned by the right to have an opinion different to yours without being insulted