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To think if Ian Huntley gets compensation

217 replies

Marjee · 31/07/2010 22:50

he should give it to the government to pay towards the prison service?

This has made me so angry so apologies if its long and ranty but ffs
This evil man killed two innocent children and now according to the news he is likely to gain at least 20k! I'm sure I've read somewhere that if someone on benefits wins the lottery they are expected to pay back some money, why should this be any different? I wonder how much taxpayers money is going towards keeping him behind bars? What a shame his attacker didn't finish the job! Ugh disgusting vile evil man, whats he going to do with that money anyway?!
Sorry ladies I did warn you, anyway I feel better for having got that off my chest!

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scottishmummy · 01/08/2010 00:12

yes

bosch · 01/08/2010 00:18

Sorry Jareth, I know you're not a moderator, but sounded like you disagreed with Alouiseq comments but didn't feel the need to explain why because of your position. feel free to ignore my comment.

ReallyFFS · 01/08/2010 00:22

Oh ffs. This is just shit, no????

He can murder two innocent girls and then wail when the wardens don't keep him safe?

Oh booo fucking hooo

Maybe he's had a taste of how scared those poor girls were

Love how he is claiming human rights when it suits him?

Didn't bother him when he murdered those poor girls

And now he wants to be cosseted by the prison service...

scottishmummy · 01/08/2010 00:27

state has statutory duty to ensure adequate safe environment for all inmates inc the henious perpetrators

Alouiseg · 01/08/2010 00:28

Someone clever needs to look at Human Rights and take them away from people who are convicted of murder. Especially child murder.

scottishmummy · 01/08/2010 00:29

no.a civilised society deals with dysfunction and depravity in a human manner

ReallyFFS · 01/08/2010 00:32

How wonderful for them. A safe sanctuary.

Not advocating a bear pit or anything, but isn't it wonderfully ironic that we have policies to make sure murderers are safe and comfortable? To make sure their rights aren't infringed

Shame about those they murdered's rights....

ChippingIn · 01/08/2010 00:32

A large part of me agrees with Alouiseg, because I want the bastard to die a slow, painful death and I'm sure there plenty of people on the outside who would ensure this happened....

However, as we wouldn't be able to pick & choose which prisoners it happens to & which it doesn't, I guess we are stuck with the current system/law...

It's still beyond belief he can get compensation at all, let alone more than the girls families got?

I think he should be able to report it and have things put right, but compensation...no way.

IF he does get any money awarded to him, it should be offered to the parents of the girls and if they don't want it, they should donate it to a charity to help find missing children or counselling services etc

This bastard should not see a penny of it.

squirrel42 · 01/08/2010 00:33

At least one of their human rights has been taken away - the right to liberty and freedom of movement. That's the punishment judged appropriate by the state, to protect society from them as well as retribution/rehabilitation as appropriate. It doesn't mean taking all their other basic human rights is automatically fair game.

If you want an eye for an eye, go off and found your own state somewhere so you can string up child abusers from lamposts to your heart's content.

ReallyFFS · 01/08/2010 00:35

FFS. Some who murdered two 10 year olds feels he can sue?

Are you shitting me?

The world knows you did it. But still you'll milk the system?

squirrel42 · 01/08/2010 00:35

And the people he murdered did have rights! He killed them unlawfully so the state stepped in and punished him for it; how hard is that to grasp?

thumbwitch · 01/08/2010 00:35

What use would the money be to him inside anyway? Am totally ignorant of whether or not prisoners have access to, or need, money while banged up.

Perhaps his compensation should be more time in solitary, where the nasty other "boys" can't get to him.

scottishmummy · 01/08/2010 00:35

liberal democracy does the right thing.and that isnt hang em flog em .the morlly just way is to rise above depravity like that of ih and seek appropriate justice.not mob torch wavin justice

Alouiseg · 01/08/2010 00:39

A civilized society wouldn't produce child murderers.

There is nothing civilized about affording child murderers the same rights as law abiding, non murdering citizens.

I spent yesterday morning on Alcatraz, I'd like Huntley and his ilk shipped to a remote island and abandoned, they could murder each other to their hearts content.

ReallyFFS · 01/08/2010 00:42

20k for being a (double child) murderer

What a sorry state this country is in

And I appreciate all that have posted above about keeping people safe etc in prison.

But. Bet you wouldn't be quite so accomodating to their needs and ability to sue if it were your child

ChippingIn · 01/08/2010 00:43

squirrel42 - one of his human rights may have been taken away, but as far as I'm oncerned it's not enough.

I am allowed the opinion that our justice system is lacking.

You don't have to agree.

Thankfully we live in a country where we can challenge things we disagree with - if you don't like that, then you go 'found a state'.

It's hard to grasp the fact that this piece of shit who killed two little girls can get money from the govt (and more money that the parents of these children who were killed) because someone attempted to kill him (shame they didn't bloody manage to do it quite frankly).

scottishmummy · 01/08/2010 00:43

"produce" child murderer.all societies are marked by dysfunction.since dawn of time.is the human condition.the big what if is nature Vs nurture debate.if such individuakls made by society?if so how do we all atone

blackberryway · 01/08/2010 00:45

The characteristic of a civilized society isn't that nothing bad ever happens there, that would be impossible, but that it responds in a humane and considered way that strives to rise above. I think we are lucky have a system of justice built over hundreds of years however imperfect it sometimes is and I for one wouldn't want to live in the land of alouiseg.

squirrel42 · 01/08/2010 00:47

Convicted murderers don't have the same rights as everyone else already! Being locked into a room each night, not allowed outside of a facility ringed with barbed wire, not able to touch your family or see them except through a glass screen, having to ask permission and be escorted even to go to the toilet, for 10-20 years or longer, sometimes until you're taken out in a box? That's quite a restriction of the rights most of us exercise.

Guess some people won't be happy unless they have them kicking away dangling from those lamposts though...

Kaloki · 01/08/2010 00:47

It's ridiculous, although I can see the whole "duty of care" thing (especially as I don't condone violence to repay violence), maybe he should have thought of not killing? He'd have been a lot safer then Maybe he should sue himself for putting himself into a dangerous/vulnerable position?

Alouiseg · 01/08/2010 00:48

Can anyone atone for abducting, probably abusing and murdering 2 little girls?

I don't feel that is possible, Huntley has proved himself to be human garbage, he is of no use to society.

Dysfunction is an ineffective word for the worst type of killer.

ReallyFFS · 01/08/2010 00:49

Yes. One of his human rights got taken away.

Those two poor girls had their lives taken away

Er, who should be suiing who here?

Twat face? Or the girls parents? For loss of life??

scottishmummy · 01/08/2010 00:53

state needs to differentiate itself from the base criminals.state is collective mass of reasoned opinion.not a debased individual.

ReallyFFS · 01/08/2010 00:55

Alouiseg, agreed

So fucking respectful of a killer (as thats what he is). A murderer.

Why is ANYONE defending him?

Oh, because he deserves to be treated fair in prison. And kept safe.

Errrr

Holly and Jessica deserved to be kept safe. And they weren't.

Fuck him

Throw him to the other prisoners. Save me some tax

squirrel42 · 01/08/2010 00:56

ChippingIn - I'm very happy for us to have different opinions, and that we can challenge the government when we don't agree with what they're doing. And yes you don't need to go and start your own country to have your way, as long as you can persuade 50% of the voting population to agree with you! (Crazy coalitions and odd-sized parliamentary constituencies permitting.)

Not quite sure if you particularly mean on the compensation issue or generally "let's take all human rights away from convicted murderers" though?

I'm not necessarily against restrictions on the civil legal rights of convicted prisoners - there may be something already that prisoners can't "profit from their crimes" eg with book or film royalties. But as I understand it this case relates to a prisoner having been placed at unecessary risk by the people who owe him a duty of care, so compensation for unecessary injuries doesn't seem like a particularly bizarre and just-cashing-in concept. It's bog standard tort law.