Wankerbastards and autumn weather, crunchy leaves, browning heather. We want crisp, cool days and crisp, cool wine, or beer or gin. But only a couple, as we smash moderatin'.

[Frouby]

Thread 8 for Tryers to be Dryers.

Join in for help and support and lots of laughs to reduce alcohol. Whatever you want to achieve with your alcohol intake, whether it's alcoholidays, dry days, less booze in general we are all in the same boat.

More threads floating around but I can't do clicky links. Just look for Wankerbastards and you will find us.

Going to try a tag a few of you whose names I can spell 🤣🤣🤣

@Flossie44
@longestlurkever
@dionoysa
@madameforest
@namechangefornow

Frouby wins the thread title medal again! 🥇

Moving over here now, with my gin cup of tea.

Checking for new thread. It’s just going to be me and kids at home for 10 days. I’m going to try and get a good dry or almost dray stretch in.....I’ve now been sitting here for 5 minutes trying to think of something upbeat and enthusiastic to say about that. Nope got nothing

Good luck leaving! Plenty of sleep? I actually look forward to a bath and early AF night when dh is not here. I put my pjs on and watch crap telly in bed and it feels like luxury. But i imagine the novelty wears off. Dh is never away! Or even out much, sadly for my liver.

Thanks for the thread Frouby! I shall always think of it as moderatin from now on.

longest plenty of sleep yeh I guess but unfortunately AF doesn’t stop me waking at 4am. It’s true I don’t wake with The Fear so that’s something. My throat is still bothering me too so perhaps I need to get that looked at due to existing self diagnose being somewhat bothersome...

Pmsl at post shame world where nobody flounces any more, ha haha
Dion, you are doing brilliantly on the AF front but the hormones sound interesting!

Frouby, I’d have been scared at the tipping out of the kayak, you are very brave

Sorry about the uti longest, hope it’s sorted soon

Lol at ‘look for wankerbastards and you'll find us’

Ha ha at ‘got nothing’ leaving, good luck.

Frouby well done on another inspired thread title, seeing us into the Autumn and winter.
Leaving Sympathies on the sleep front. Even on my AF nights I'm still not sleeping well now, menopause is to blame I suppose, but I have suitcases under my eyes at the moment. Good luck on your AF stretch, I can understand your lack of enthusiasm, though.
Dion another AF night brilliant!
Longest I hope the new antibiotics work. I had the same problem when treating my upper uti for the first time.
Waves to everyone else, off to sign for a house now. Probably not AF tonight as there will be an excuse to celebrate.

Oooh that's lovely news Madame. Is it a business property or personal?

Won't be dry. 1.5 hours at dentist with dd and ds. Ds was a star considering we went straight from school. Dentist is lovely but always running late. Just phoned dh and having a chippy tea as well cos I really can't be arsed to do sausage and Yorkshire puddings now.

I want a beer and a bath and a big, fat chip buttie 🤣🤣🥰

Exciting, Madame!!

Will not be dry tonight either, thanks to enabling friend. Though I wouldn't be dry if I'd spent 1.5 hours at the dentist, either.

Leaving, I'm also still waking up at 4AM, though without The Fear (thank God). I'll have The Fear at 4AM tomorrow, though.

Not going to be AF either, despite uti. Dh got accepted on to a development programme thing at work and want to celebrate for him because he has had a rubbish time career wise with being ill.

Sympathies re dentist. I just spent over an hour back at shoe shop because dd1 decided boots we had on sale or return were still uncomfy. She tried every pair in the shop on at least twice with and without insoles and has come home with another pair on sale or return. Sigh. Shop woman was so patient, don't know how she can bear it. At the end of it all i got a £7 refund because new boots were cheaper .

Still annoyed by total disrespect for rule of law. Not sure why i bother putting the effort in really if no one gives a shit whether things are lawful or not. So sulked through another working day mostly distracted by the Parliament channel and then oversaw squabbling kids. With that, uti and random new sore shoulder i am in a bit of a grump.

💐💐 longest, quite re the law, I’m with you!

Madame, quite right to celebrate the property, tell us more? (Sorry if you already have, missed some of the last thread)

Dionysa, have a nice time

Frouby, dentist sounds a pita

Ds is back just for tonight so we’ve had a nice day today and I'm driving him back to university tomorrow. Cooked everyone burgers for supper and didn’t drink so thats day 2 done AF.

It's a little house opposite the one we are buying to renovate and live in. So yes it is a business because we want to rent it out, hopefully around 300€ a month. It cost 26,000€,40m2 2 bedrooms so very small but quite cute with a wood burner. Nothing like the house prices in the U.K but then you need to like living in the countryside and driving a lot to get to work/shops etc

Ooh i love it Madame!

Congratulations!

Completely wiped out my past AF triumphs. FML.

hey Madame, thats a gorgeous house. so cute!! And an absolute bargain and in really good condition too. Im excited for you. congrats!!

Frouby. Chip butty and beer sounds perfect following a dentist appointment!!

Are you feeling better Dion

Longest. thats great news regarding dh and the development programme. I bet its a lift he needs. and indeed you. I still think you are awesome coping with what you do.

So I'm drinking again. can't remember my last dry night. Pressing the fuck it button constantly again. Cant put into words what a shit couple of weeks I've had. My dad was mega poorly, dd had epipen at school, my cousins husband took his own life, both dd's had chest infections. Saw hospital consultant with dd1 yesterday about treatment options for her asthma..and as we sat talking, dd1 stopped breathing and went purple!! So I had to deal with her and carry on with convo about dd2!! Then came home to shiity emails about dd2 missing school. despite me having contacted school to explain each morning. Just want to tell the world to piss off right now!!

Oh Flossie. I am so sorry for your loss re cousin's husband, and for everything you have been through with your dad and dds. Sending love in bucketloads x

Bucketloads from me, too, Flossie. Nobody should have to go through this. And you are such a sweet, kind, generous soul, too. I just want to shout at someone to make it all stop for you.

I have probably had the best part of a bottle of white tonight. I had to leave a bit despite Enabling Friend's best intentions (she was drinking less than I was, I noted). It coincides with other difficult stuff which needs blotting out, so I will live with it. But onwards and upwards tomorrow.

Another 10 bucket loads from me flossie it’s simply ridiculous what you have to deal with.
frouby dentist related drinking is totally legit. I think it’s part of international law actually.
Madam house buying drinking also legit and congratulations.
water cooking for visiting family and not drinking, That’s not one in my repertoire. Well done. Dion it sounds like you did ok considering friends visit and blotting out needs. How do you feel this morning?
^Longest on parliament and squabbling children - when I first read it I didn’t realise you meant your actual real life young humans. It must be difficult to tell the difference right? As I wrote on the other thread I’m so wore out by the fact that the adults in my life appear to require the same level of support as my kids so perhaps I’m projecting. NCN and Madam* I’m bloody surrounded by males too. Doesn’t help.
Congratulations for your husband longest great news, is he chuffed?
On early mornings, I’m peri Madam and that’s seems to be it. When I was younger I could sleep for England. I did 4 years of shift work a while back and dealt with a crazy sleep pattern pretty well. The first 4am waking I had was when pregnant at 40 and then he turned out to be an early riser and general sleep related pain the arse. This was all new to me as first pregnancy and first early bird baby (my older one is not my bio and was never up at the crack of dawn). I never completely got over all that but this last year is definitely worse.

Leaving, the short answer is that I had forgotten, even after just a week, how horrible hangovers are. Urgghhhhhhhh. It is going to be a very long day. Went to bed at about 1, and woke up at 4 with The Fear. Urgggghhhhh again.

Flossie I'm so sorry for everything you are going through. That is a lot of sh!t to deal with and always terrible when someone takes their own life.
Dion I'm with you on the feeling dreadful. I drank the best (or worst) part of a bottle of wine and slept terribly. Fortunately working from home and not teaching so a siesta is possible.

That cottage is gorgeous Madame! Very exciting a project like that.

Flossie . What a fucking shite time you are having.

Dionthe only thing that keeps me moderate at all these days is that I can't cope with hangovers at all.

leaving I alternate between sleeping like a log, and being awake every few hours. What helps me get back to sleep relatively quickly (after a wee usually) is a self hypnosis technique I use from an old Paul McKenna (I think that's his name) I can think you thin recording. Am still fat, obviously mind over matter doesn't work, but I can always usually nod off.

Usual chaotic day today. School run, straight to ponies, back home then need to do some banking and pick a passport application form up for ds, work for a couple of hours, then get dinner ready for later, pick ds up, meet dd and go see my mam for an hour. Then drop dd off at dragonboat training, make dinner, bath and bed.

Am so looking forward to the weekend. Have decided not to go on the river trip as the weather is going to be vile, and with the amount of rain we have had this week the river will be fast flowing and deep so it's a lot for ds (and me!) to cope with for our first go on moving water.

Bless you all. You are so sweet.
We have to move forward and look to the positive though. My girls are improving thankfully.
We’re going away for the weekend this weekend. Can’t bloody wait!! Really need to start gaining control again next week!!