Tryers to be dryers spring into spring, not as much wine, beer or gin. We sow our seeds of hope for a dryer season, but if we drink, it's for a reason.

[Frouby]

Thread 5 for Tryers to be Dryers. A thread for those who want support for moderating or reducing alcohol. Whatever you hope to do, whether it's to have more dry days, or be less wet when you do drink, come and join us for support.

Absolutely no judgement here, just friendly support and chat, the odd swear (lots of swears to be honest). All welcome, new and old tryers to dryers.

The reward impulse kicks in because I have managed two lousy AF days not even in a row Longest, that is me in a nutshell!! 4 x 40ml strong gin last night, for no reason at all. For me, that's moderation Definitely not worthy of a ⭐️, though.

Nice work, Bigbus.

NC4, I can't believe your holiday is so soon! I'm so glad it's happening. You don't half deserve it. I am faffing around on tactical voting websites, rather than doing anything useful.

Frouby, I'm in awe of your three days. Send some strength my way, please. Love the photo, too.

Gah, voting. We are pretty safe from the far right here I think, and Farage and the Tories have no hope either. I'd normally vote Labour but considering the treacherous Lib Dems to "send a message" though it seems they are likely to read that as "get on with Brexit" so fuck knows what's best really. I'd vote green if they weren't so rampantly opposed to enlightenment values.

Well done Bigbus!

Ooh did you Flossie? I love all that stuff. Have been counting the days till Dd1 turns 8 so we can join our local watersports centre and do those giant inflatable courses. Have a voucher for white water rafting too. Woodcraft folk have a camp with canoeing etc in a few weeks' time actually but I would have to leave dd2 home with DH and I am not sure he's up to it (and I would miss her). Dd1 doesn't seem that fussed and we are going camping with her class, some friends and to a festival this year which I think might be sufficient for nights under canvas! I was re-tempted when I saw the canoeing though.

Gah work is suddenly mental again. The world and his wife seem to be issuing court proceedings and Parliament have suddenly decided to fill up the Brexit-shaped hole with all the stuff they've been putting off. I am social mobility bod and that's a second job in itself, and I am supposed to be part time.

May attempt a three AF day winning streak. On the other hand there are with drinks and if my meeting finishes early I will be right next door and could swing by....

Little Frouby looks so proud of himself. I love kayaking.
Longest that’s me too. The reward impulse is strong. I’m close to cracking open the champagne because I got DS2 into school this morning. I’m having a celebratory cup of tea instead.

Well, I woke up at 6am feeling dazed and confused, a little headachey and thought oh no, I wish I hadn't drunk wine last night. Then I remembered I hadn't, so felt immediately better and raring to go, the headache was probably just due to dehydration after running16km last night with the club in fairly warm temperatures. Phew!
Lovely photos Frouby DS looks so happy and well done on 3 nights AF, I'm glad you are feeling the benefits.
NC4 One bottle of beer is definitely moderating. And Dion I think the gin is too, although I have no idea on spirit measures!
Bigbus good for you on your AF evening. Are you going to try again tonight?
Leaving With no DH I'm the same, I don't drink. So in order to be AF when he is here I give him a beer so there is no wine open and I'm not tempted. 2 nights AF. Hopefully tonight too, that will be my 3 nights consecutive. I find it easier to do that than have odd nights AF, plus I feel the benefits more on a 3 day plus stretch.

I’m thinking of Greens this time Longest. We don’t usually get candidates for local or general elections so it’s a novelty to have the option.
I’m very disillusioned with my beloved Labour Party at the moment, and last time I voted Lib Dem they formed a coalition with the stories, so it’s once bitten with them.
I think Green will do quite well this time, and it seems like a bigger FO to Yaxley-Lennon and co.
I’m still not 100% though.

Yes a family friend stood as green councillor and ended up getting elected! Think she was a bit shocked, she became a grandmother the same day. I just wish you could be anti climate change without being anti science. Replacing the NHS with crystals and all that jazz. Might check their manifesto again though.

Woo to getting dd2 to school.

Apart from a pint of Peroni at the pub at a lunchtime meeting, I abstained from wine or anything else last night even though I was tempted when the stress levels were rising. That's ok right?

dr think that shows moderating. I love peroni and would have called at shop for more!

I am not voting today. I know I should. But have stopped watching politics and listening to the various broadcasts and stopped even reading stuff about it. Have no party I want to vote for, no MP that inspires me, no desire to even follow the shenanigans. Am completely disenfranchised if that's the right word with the whole bloody lot of them. Complete shower of shite so far out of touch with the people they should represent it's like watching foreign politics where you just think wtf is going on here.

Off to ponies shortly. Hoping BabyPony behaves herself today, she was a knobber yesterday for the first time ever. So today she will be working doubly hard.

Interesting you say it's like watching foreign politics frouby. I lost the right to vote years ago (I have had no residence in the UK at all for 20+ years). I used to regard UK politics with the same limited level of interest as other countries politics and pay more interest in whatever part of the world I was living in. Now though it's grotesquely compelling, not as much as Trump mind but too close for comfort. I honestly have no idea how I would feel based in the UK.

Madame I've used that beer offering tactic too. I kind of messed up that trick up by becoming The Master of the BSD. When I explained the basics of BSD to him and he asked about calories and carbs in a few different things he claimed he would manage the 800 kcal low carb on one tablespoon of olive oil and a bottle of red wine a day

Frouby It is the same here in France, everyone is very disillusioned with politics and politicians in general. I can vote here in the EU elections but like Leaving no longer have the right to vote in the UK elections. Interestingly French ex pats never lose the right to vote in their country of origin no matter how long they have lived away from there.
Leaving I've done that calculation I like your DH's logic. The only problem is that once the bottle of wine has disappeared so does the willpower not to eat and I'm sure I wouldn't resist eating at least one bag of crisps.

Will read you all later but just popped in to say I am sorely tempted to drink tonight. I didn't get the job I went for, after 3 interviews, all with great feedback ("She loved you" being one comment, from the person the job reported to) so no idea what happened there. I have another interview this afternoon and I probably won't get that bastard either. They also sent me online tests to do which fucked me off, they were 11+ type questions i.e, if a cuboard is 5ft wide and 30 cubic metres and it's a Tuesday, how many cunting people can fit in it? WHO FUCKING CARES? I'm really experienced, I'm over this shit. But I cried this morning when I heard I hadn't got it. And I want a drink. And I am not working tomorrow although I do have the bastarding fucking cunting dentist at 9am so I suppose I shouldn't. DH earns good money so it's not the end of the world but we could do with me working too really, loads of things to pay for, as ever. So although I've ticked off the teacup on my Dry Jan app I may untick it later.

I bet I'll be interviewed by 20 year olds as well, ffs. Wish me luck!

Oh bugger water that's just shit. It's a total bastard and I completely get what you mean about knowing you have the experience needed and just being fucking over it. Fuck that cupboard and all the stupid people stuck in it.

Sorry to hear that water.

Awwwwww water. What a load of cunting wankerbastards they must be. I wouldn't be dry either, set of cunts in a cupboard they are.

I haven't had a job interview for years, last one I had I didn't get either. And even Aldi didn't want me after filling in an application form for them. So they can fuck off too, even if I didn't actually particularly want to work at Aldi. Discounted cunts.

Not sure if I will be dry or not. Have raging PMT and feel shit with a horrible griping bellyache and javelin arse keeps coming on. Who would be a woman. And my dodgy knee is being dodgy. Was working Little Pony early and practicing a poncey in hand trot ready for lead rein show classes when my knee went and javelin arse happened. Lent over pony panting mid arse spasm on 1 leg when bloke walks past with his dog and waved. Probably looked like I was having an epic fart assisted by Little Pony. Fml, its no wonder I drink.

Water Good luck for this afternoon's interview. I hope this one doesn't involve any stupid cupboard questions

Oh water, wankerbastards sprung straight to my mind too. Several friends of mine have just had the same thing happen - three interviews, loads of really encouraging feedback, and then the job has just been pulled. I think it's the crappy uncertain economy meaning there are loads of good people looking for work and lots of employers feeling entitled to waste people's time on speculative stuff that gets blocked higher up because they're worried about taking new people on. So I imagine they've either pulled the job altogether or appointed someone crappier than you but cheaper, or someone internal who was at risk of redundancy and HR said they had to take instead. Shit all round, and upsetting, but nothing to do with you. I hope the next interview goes better. I wouldn't be dry either.

Still don't know if I will be tonight either. Swerved work drinks so am in DH's hands. Have to be up early though.

Ouch Frouby. Poor you! I am still impressed with your horsewomanship tales though - even more so really!

I very, very rarely laugh out loud at anything at all, but I did laugh out loud at 'cunts in a cupboard', Frouby. It has made my day. I'm so sorry, though, about the job, Water. At least you got to the cunts in the cupboard stage, which is more than I have done in living memory. and

Not dry. DP is being an arse. So is DD. And DS has asked me for £2,000 to buy him an iMac. He Needs it, apparently. If anyone were buying an iMac, it would be me. And I'm not. So there. I told him to go away.

The only problem is that once the bottle of wine has disappeared so does the willpower not to eat and I'm sure I wouldn't resist eating at least one bag of crisps Nodding along, MadameF. The Wotsits in the cupboard are summoning me at the moment.

As for tomorrow... I am going to vote, but I am going to vote for anyone at all who is in favour of remaining/second referendum. No doubt pointless, but I'm losing the will with all of this.

Doctor, a pint at lunchtime is absolutely as good as AF. My problem would be stopping there, so it is great that you did.

😂😂😂 at all of you.

Thank you so much for the sympathy and laughs. I am drinking. And loving it. Dh has been amazing and sympathetic and kind and awesome and I feel better for having dinner and a long chat with him.

About to watch trash telly with more wine while enjoying not giving a shit!

Wtf is javelin arse though?!

Water, have you never suffered from javelin arse? It's when you have your period and you feel as if someone's stuffing a red hot poker up your rear end. It's true to say, though, that I never knew it had a name until I joined Mumsnet.

Fuck I've caved. My abusive ex (used to work with me in my business, non molestation order etc etc) is still causing me problems by stealth I think - this time via a client who is a friend of his and who is trying to screw me contractually. I suspect foul play bit difficult to prove. Client is an insurance salesman but claims not to have seen the t&cs to a contract and now wants to bring a claim against me for HIM booking my services under false pretences!!! Ugh.

I went to court in March and the ex was convicted of harassment. But apparently I still have to roll over and play nice or his mates will financially fuck me over

None of that probably made sense. Just venting and have had 3 glasses of Prosecco!

Ugh Dr. [Flowers]. It's no wonder we are here really?

Glad DH has been good Water.

Kids are being hard work this evening. Dd1 is in bits because her after school club is a polling station and she has to join one at another school. Dd1 is kicking off over bath and bed.

Trying to be good. DH has not opened wine. May need a nanny state and a cannabis tea!

Doctor. Hugs. My XH was abusive too (to the DC, not to me). It's horrible. As lovely Longest says, no wonder we are here.