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Newbies Part 2

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resipsa · 29/05/2014 11:18

Hello! I like starting threads - there are sadly too many of mine littered in conception, miscarriage and infertility.

My story? After two miscarriages in 5 months (both following donor egg IVF), my mind and body have had enough and my thoughts are turning to the idea of adoption because I want two children. DD (my and DH's BC) is 3.

We're at the thinking stage but I have registered my interest with my LA and a VA locally. But for DD, I would be pressing ahead at full speed but I worry about the potential negative impact on her. I never worried about how having another BC might affect her and so am unsure if I need to refocus on me and DH - we want another child - rather than concentrate on the sibling issue.

I hope there are others (Mersea, maybe?) in my shoes who will join me here in supporting each other through the process.

And to Italian - I love your story and hope to follow in your shoes!

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dimples76 · 29/05/2014 20:56

Hi All

I am a single prospective adopter. I am on Stage 2 and am going to approval panel on 2nd July which is exactly six months since I first completed the online application form.

Finding it hard to think of anything else about adopting at the moment.

Good luck everyone!

Italiangreyhound · 29/05/2014 21:10

I said up thread...

You are right, you do need to consider the impact of adoption on birth children in a way you do not with another birth child because there are more uncertainties with looked after children. I can say more if you like.

Someone has asked me to expand, so I know Lilka and others can add a lot more here, Kristina if you are looking in, devora, Kew and co??

Basically, all/almost all children who come through the care 'looked after' system have been affected by a combination of things, the loss of birth parents, and probably the loss of foster carers (maybe multiple sets of foster carers). Also there may well have been issues in the birth family such as drug or alcohol abuse, mental health issues or learning difficulties. In some cases there may have been drug and alcohol abuse and mental heath issues etc, or learning difficulties and associating with 'risky' people such as drug or alcohol abuses with the result that birth parent/s could not keep the child safe. Children might have had al manner of neglect or abuse. This all leads to a possibility of a child who is affected by these experiences and may almost certainly have issues related to these things either from their genes or from their environment or both.

Having said this the children are just children and having a birth child who is pretty emotional and a bit of a handful at times I know that genes and experiences are not the full story. Children can be amazing and even after a tough start in life can go on to live brilliant and vibrant lives with the right parents.

For me, I really wanted to parent another child, wanted my birth child to have a sibling and had wanted to adopt for the past 20 years. So it was pretty much a no-brainer BUT I needed to be really ready for it! DH was ready long before me. I wanted IVF with donor eggs before I would give up on another birth child and after two cycles and a frozen cycle of IVF (with donor eggs) which all failed, I felt I was ready to say goodbye to IVF. Once I had closed the door on IVF I felt ready to embrace adoption. Now I could not imagine it any other way and after less then a month I would not swap ds for another birth child.

I was very cautious about the kind of child I could parent, I am older, late 40s and I have limited energy and so I knew I could not handle a child who was really full on or really ill with a life threatening disease/illness. That is just me. I had my things on my list I was worried about but ultimately, when I read little ones profile - DH and I just felt he was right. He kicked lots of our boxes but not all of them, it was funny, he was not what we were expecting but now he seems the absolute right fit for our family!

He has just come down to give me a goodnight kiss (I wrote this out a little while ago!) and is utterly adorable.

Of course there may be problems down the line and I must be ready for them, that is what I have signed up for! DH and I. Love makes it all easier but I know from others love does not always come quickly or easily. So all in all I think it is 50% head (working out what is best for your family, what you can handle etc etc) and 50% heart, just that feeling that this is right.

Whatever you are feeling about the process go slowly, read lots (I read on the Internet and not books as dyslexia is a problem for me with books!) and talk to people and get info and ultimately it must be your choice for your family.

My DD was fully on board but ultimately we as parents had to make that choice for the whole family.

Good luck one and all.

namechangesforthehardstuff · 29/05/2014 22:06

Happydazed! :) How bloody glad am I to see you here! ?

namechangesforthehardstuff · 29/05/2014 22:08

And everyone else obv Blush

resipsa · 29/05/2014 22:39

Just been reading the AdoptionUK forum; time for a quick exit from this thread or be rational and accept that there must in any situation be bad and good experiences?

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resipsa · 29/05/2014 22:42

PS Anyone have a crystal ball?

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Polkadotpatty · 29/05/2014 23:17

Purely a personal opinion, but I was steered towards the mumsnet adoption board because the adoption UK one was freaking me out! I've been very happy here ever since - delightful ambience Grin honest and sensitive opinions, but a lot less scary! Don't let them scare you - I still dip into that forum sometimes and don't find it as overwhelming now, but here is "home".

Eleven days until my intros start... Eep! Just a teensy bit excited.

Italiangreyhound · 29/05/2014 23:25

Polkadotpatty all the very best for the intros, get lots of sleep beforehand!

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Pickles2go · 30/05/2014 09:11

Hi all, marking spot too. We are stage 2, waiting for panel in under 2 weeks. Eeek, can hardly think about anything else! We started making enquiries August last year, but since committing the new timescales have worked like clockwork (think we also have a really good SW) and it will be pretty much 6 months to panel. Good luck everyone.

starrydreams · 30/05/2014 14:10

Hi, going to add my mark too. I'm also stage 2, panel in just over 2 weeks. Been trying to desperately distract myself. I'll be 8 months to panel but I chose to go on a later prep course because it fitted in better with work.

I'm a frequent poster over on fertility friends and occasional on AUK and I would say don't let the negative posts on AUK freak you out too much. Both sites can be full of incredibly useful information and a great source of a support network. There are good and bad experiences, and you can find some truly lovely ones, when people remember not to just post when they are needing help.

Starry x

PootlewasthebestFlump · 30/05/2014 15:07

Hello all noobs! I had no idea there were so many of us!

We've just entered stage 1 with a form with our references etc. that means we've had to start telling people! And it's scary to hear yourself say it out loud!!!

In fact, it's normal to get the squits whilst filling out your forms, right?!

We are right at the beginning of our journey and it's really helpful on here to talk to those much further along.

Tea n biscuits all round!

CloserThanYesterday · 30/05/2014 15:36

Wow, look at us all! It's great :-) Hi and welcome to everyone!

I'm an old newbie too, going to panel 1st week of July (all being well).

Just to add to the adoption uk forum comments - I too ran screaming from there. It's terrifying. I still have a look now and then but I much prefer it over here.

pootle that really made me laugh!!!

MrsM2509 · 30/05/2014 18:04

Ive not even dared to look at adoption uk yet, we were pre warned at our prep groups of what it was like so I've steered clear

PootlewasthebestFlump · 30/05/2014 18:16

Well we'll probably need to laugh together over the coming months/years.

CatsAreLikeChocolates · 30/05/2014 18:25

Hello! Another very new newbie here (maybe even a pre-bie)? We've had an initial meeting with the SW from a VA and are waiting to see if they can squeeze us on to the July prep course. If not, it's going to have to be prep in September for us which seems like aaaaaages! Think I'm going to have to get better at waiting for things or this process might drive me potty.

I too was a bit scared put off by AUK, so much prefer it here. Have in fact been a long time lurker but have finally decided to take the plunge. I've spent the last year or so trying to talk myself out of the whole idea of adoption to be honest, having spent 5 years having failed treatment for secondary infertility, and worrying about how hard the process would be. DH has always been really keen but I've got the kind of mind that worries too much and have been round and round in circles with endless "what-ifs". I don't know what's changed really but lurking on here and hearing some of the happy endings has allayed some of my fears and it just seems like the right time for us now. My main concern is for our DD who is 6 and desperately wants a sibling, but the SW we met seemed to really click with us and I think I could trust that one day between us all we could find the right match, a child we could be the right parents for, to make our family complete.

Meanwhile, if anyone's got any reassuring things to say about what exactly happens at a medical and how quickly the waiting times seem to pass that would be great...

FamiliesShareGerms · 30/05/2014 19:12

Hi - what a lot of newbies!!

I'm Families, mum to two children: DS (birth child) and DD (adopted child). I'm that annoying one that you hear about who left approval panel and shown details immediately of DD - back for matching a month later then intros immediately. That was about 2.5 years ago - and I didn't discover MN until I was on adoption leave...!

I'm also that annoying person who comes on threads then disappears for ages...

Our experience of adoption has been overall positive - DS and DD adore each other, and DD has her issues (mostly control related) but is genuinely delightful and utterly beautiful ( prettier than our genes would have produced!)

FamiliesShareGerms · 30/05/2014 19:14

Cats - medical was very simple - height, weight, blood pressure etc. No nudity Wink

Pickles2go · 30/05/2014 19:32

Hi cats medical was fine - as families says it was height, weight, blood pressure, urine sample, reflexes etc I had my breasts checked (which was quite happy about) and then a chat through our respective medical histories so Dr could fill in the form. Our Dr was lovely - she also refused to charge us - although I'm not sure that's common. If you haven't already I would start to look to book an appointment as soon as you can - our experience was that it took a loooooong time to get an appointment. We waited about 6 weeks and plenty of people on our prep course had to wait longer.

Waiting times… that's the thing I've struggled with most through this process - it sometimes feels like one big wait - and it's quick compared to what it used to be, there are experienced adopters on here with much more practice at waiting! We are currently waiting for approval panel. BUT, taken as a whole it's a wait that feels like it will hopefully have an ending and I've found the whole process a bit of a rite of passage and in many ways quite enjoyable. Best of luck

Mersea · 30/05/2014 20:35

Thanks for starting the thread resipsa I am now 42, been with partner 14 years but no children of our own. I have had 2 mc that were far apart, the last one was last summer. We looked into other options but decided not to go down the IVF route - low chance of success, heavy cost both emotionally and physically not to mention financially! plus my partner is at risk of passing on an inherited condition. So we find ourselves considering adoption. So far we have made a call to 2 LAs and we have been sent an initial enquiry form from one and asked to attend a open evening from the other. raspberry good to hear you made the call you will have to let us know how the initial visit goes. Congrats to everyone who is further on and been approved :) Can anyone recommend some good books? I have just got 'No Matter What' from the library.

CatsAreLikeChocolates · 30/05/2014 20:45

Yay! Thanks Families & Pickles . So pleased that the medical is mostly just a chat. I feel like there have already been more than enough times when whole bus-loads of medics have traipsed around my poor useless old bod! Must make an appointment for me and Mr Cats asap.

I'm also glad to hear that the waiting feels positive and almost enjoyable, or at least like it's getting somewhere, which more than can be said for the fertility treatment merry-go-round. And the new, shorter, "6 months limit" for a bit of the process should surely help too.

Also, I find it so inspiring to hear tales of positive relationships between siblings. I feel just the same as the OP in that I don't think I'd have worried very much at all about the impact on DD if I'd just been able to pop out another BC a couple of years after she was born. But I worry that her 6 years of being the centre of our world might make it difficult for her to accept another child now, even if we were to be approved and matched, let alone the differences in parenting a looked after child after only having ever parented DD. It's lovely to hear from others who have been there and done it and had such happy endings.

And Pootle I think that I have a solution for your little... ahem... "problem". You can take Immodium with wine can't you? Wink But it has made me think about who, and how, and when to start telling people about this thing we're doing that's occupying all of our thoughts all of the time. So who did the Old Newbies tell and when? What would be your advice? See, you're the old and wise ones now!

resipsa · 30/05/2014 22:40

Can I just ask others (and I'm a week post 3rd m/c and only mins past too much Wine), do you have totally extreme wobbles, as in one moment thinking 'this' is my future then the next moment thinking 'this' will never work? I want it so much but then...

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resipsa · 30/05/2014 22:43

And while I am here, I want to say thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. I have started threads before which have been empty save for my paltry beginning - this one is FABULOUS!

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resipsa · 30/05/2014 22:53

Hi Mersea. I think you were very wise re IVF. A year on from our first cycle (but only a week on from our last), I sincerely regret having gone down that route. Although it's only been a week since we 'extracted' ourselves (involuntarily after a m/c), I already see how it focuses your whole existence on TTC which is so unhealthy. Despite the sadness of a second m/c in 5 months, I already feel more 'me' only a week on than I have since we began it.

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prumarth · 30/05/2014 22:55

Resipsa, me and my husband have wobbled more times than I can count. Luckily at different times so we never actually derailed ourselves! But wobbles are definitely normal!

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