How did Jonathan Ross come back from the Russell Brand/Andrew Sachs thing?

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Quite apart from Russell Brand hiding in plain sight, how did Jonathan Ross ever work again?

Yes, but I’m pretty sure that JR referred to it too.

Late 70s/80s, greater London. Girls did needlework, cookery. Boys did metalwork, woodwork. No question of anything different. When one girl did science A-level the only - and obvious - conclusion on the part of the lads was that she was a lesbian.

Th UK is far behind the US in terms of female equality.

‘Normal’ men need to step up more in the UK and call out this type of non funny, non clever, humiliating, put down behaviour which is predominantly against women.

As Sean Lock stated in a programme, one reason he hated RB was the fear that one of his daughters could bring home ‘that’. If men won’t protect their wives better, perhaps they will their daughters.

He should be worried right now I would imagine.
Never liked him & he's another "bully" type of presenter.

I was shocked JR was invited to do Celebrity Traitors. The BBC have short memories

Yes- this is absolutely the culture I remember.

I also remember two Maths teachers openly discussing my 13 year old friends hair in front of her and the rest of the class. Isn’t her hair beautiful? The colour and how it contrasts with her jumper.

I was also assaulted by an old man when I was helping out on a French restoration site in my early 20s. He was in his 60s and he came into my bed while I was asleep and put his hand up into my bra and started kissing my neck. I woke up and shouted him off me.

The next day everyone was acting like I was putting them all out as I was fuming. No discussion of police or reporting it.

Going to a garage/workshop with my car & having to talk to the mechanic in the office while surrounded by calendars/posters of topless women.
I hated that kind of thing!
Bloody hated page 3!

I think this every time I hear him on Classic FM. I remember when it happened - him laughing along like a complete and utter twat and can’t believe he’s come up smelling of
roses

Eh?

How on earth could she be the 'mum of a fellow student' when she had her son at 21, so her H to be would have been 13 at the time and would have finished school by the time JL's son would even be starting school???

My god actual adult women! We were eventually allowed to wear trousers in winter by the time I was leaving school, but it was just if it was snowing ! I live in Scotland so there was snow but still!

That is genuinely terrible. Poor woman.

I think because he was the biggest name. He already had a much more established reputation and was a big cash cow. The BBC let him go VERY reluctantly, and ITV were very happy to take a chance on him. I think he also got away with it, because he's managed to keep a pretty low profile since then, going more mainstream, and kept his nose clean.

I think JR is a bit of a bore. I used to think he was edgy when I was younger, but as I've got older I've realized he's a bit of a nerd who just talks fast, which gives the illusion of being interesting.

90s school PE - girls weren't allowed to run more than 800 metres for our 'long distance' on sports day, the boys got 800m and a mile.

Same era the girls got kicked off the hockey pitch mid match so the boys could practise. There was at least a parental outcry about that one though.

Both a man and a woman at the BBC resigned over the incident. a higher- up (the woman) resigned because they were overall in charge and the man with more direct knowledge also resigned:

On the evening of 30 October it was announced that Controller of Radio 2 Lesley Douglas had tendered her resignation, which had been accepted.[26] Her resignation letter did not address the question of whether she had approved the pre-recorded show for transmission.[27] That day, Ross was suspended without pay from all BBC shows for a period of twelve weeks.[28]

The BBC issued an apology on 8 November, stating that the calls were "grossly offensive" and a "serious breach of editorial standards".[29]The corporation apologised specifically to Sachs and Baillie, and also to licence fee payers. The evening before this formal apology, David Barber, head of Specialist Music and Compliance at Radio 2, also resigned.

I think similar happened over the Trump broadcast - a very senior person resigned quickly to show corporate remorse, and then later review leads to more resignations of those directly involved in decisions

Ive never understood why these people are on the TV over and over. They are not talented and the people behind them who turn a blind eye should be put in the dock as well. J R is a horrible human being and is not anyone I like to see on the telly.
There must be loads of people that can do the same job yet they use the same people again and again.
What makes me sad is when a girl is too scared to complain about any sexual wrong doing that may have happened, or just told to be quiet because the star for some reason , is too big. This happens over and over again and must stop. The cover up is just as bad as the crime.

Has ITV had anywhere near the same scandals?

Is it because there’s something going on with the specific culture at the BBC?

Because it’s funded by the taxpayer, so held to higher standards and more interest for the press to investigate?

Because the BBC are much bigger? More likely to have more scandals.

That if there is something going on, it’s easier for ITV, as a private company to cover things up?

Why is the BBC forever caught up in this stuff?

We know there’s the Philip Schofield stuff at ITV but it seems like every year there’s a BBC scandal where lessons will be learned.

I am mid 50s and I now sadly think there will be no era for women where they are not oppressed. Lived through the blatent sexism of the 70s and 80s, lad culture and now the trans rights movement which insists women should not have single sex spaces and are fascists if they disagree. I was so niave and hopeful when I was younger.

Vanessa Feltz explains well how she was mesmerised by Brand but then it just isn't funny ...

Interesting to hear her pov. I’m glad they made up.

I remember this incident well as it was so shocking.
JR was actually worse (just) than RB during the radio show and he only had 12 weeks without pay from BBC, not sacked and he didn’t resign in shame.
I hope someone or something comes back to bite him - horrible man with a big ego.

PP seems to think you have the timeline wrong.

But if you can’t see a difference between meeting someone briefly whilst they were still at school and then meeting them as an adult and starting a relationship, and a 26 year old dating a 16 year old, then I don’t know what you are smoking.

Agree, it was very much the shock jock, lads era.

Chris Evans said some appalling things on his radio 1 breakfast show. It was in many ways car crash radio. Hes very much reinvented himself as a cosy nice family man.

Shappi Khorsandi has done a really interesting interview about Russell Brand for C4.

Quite apart from anything else, I find JR’s voice very irritating. I have to switch off his Classic FM slot.