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Keiran Hayler has been found NOT GUILTY

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Thefrocklady · 22/10/2026 13:02

I think Katie Price might be next in the docks.
She seems hell bent on ruining her exes lives.

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Genuineweddingone · 22/10/2026 20:59

helpwiththispleasee · 22/10/2026 19:47

I’m autistic and nothing like Katie price ! Your comment is insulting to label all people with asd like that.

It is very offensive I agree and I wholeheartedly that she is a full blown narcissist nothing more nothing less and it is very upsetting to read people write things about autism and adhd in relation to a selfish manipulator like kp.

Genuineweddingone · 22/10/2026 21:06

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Yes this is all part of the narcissistic delusion, putting on a show for the outside world instead of taking accountability for any wrong doing or telling the truth. SHE believes in her own deluded mind that she is a good person and good parent so even setting up bedrooms and the like is all part of her fantasy world.

BeardySchnauzer · 22/10/2026 21:09

Genuineweddingone · 22/10/2026 21:06

Yes this is all part of the narcissistic delusion, putting on a show for the outside world instead of taking accountability for any wrong doing or telling the truth. SHE believes in her own deluded mind that she is a good person and good parent so even setting up bedrooms and the like is all part of her fantasy world.

It’s interesting because her older kids seem desperate to appease her. The stories they tell but then ‘she can’t help it’ ‘she loves us’. It’s sad. I am tempted to watch them on the new series of race across the world

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 21:13

Genuineweddingone · 22/10/2026 21:06

Yes this is all part of the narcissistic delusion, putting on a show for the outside world instead of taking accountability for any wrong doing or telling the truth. SHE believes in her own deluded mind that she is a good person and good parent so even setting up bedrooms and the like is all part of her fantasy world.

Indeed, my partners ex is exactly the same - she’s seen her children a total of twice in the past year, but the stories she spins to other people and her social media would have you believing she’s mother of the year.

Genuineweddingone · 22/10/2026 21:14

I say this as a daughter of a narc mum, even though I am no contact with mine because what she has done to our family is unforgiveable right until the last 'thing' that she did that was the final straw I still wanted a mum. I still wanted what other people had, I tried to see it through her lens and tried to understand and even said things like 'hurt people, hurt people' but in the end these women know what they are doing and they know they are hurting others around them they simply do not give a fuck. They are either the victor or the victim and it does not matter who their vitriol is directed towards.

InterIgnis · 22/10/2026 21:18

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:30

Are you talking about biploar disorder or borderline personality disorder?

Borderline Personality Disorder is renamed as EUPD

And the current theory is that when applied to women (its normally always women diagnosed with EUPD whereas men get diagnosed with ASPD), it may be misdiagnosed and its autism instead.

Or there may be another cluster B personality disorder: ASPD. Due at least in part to gender bias amongst clinicians, a woman with ASPD is more likely to be diagnosed with BPD, and a man with BPD more likely to be diagnosed with ASPD.

Genuineweddingone · 22/10/2026 21:19

I have never seen the real life stuff with her an peter andre but have heard that apparently HE looked the bad guy and maybe he was but his marriage now and his parenting skills pretty much show me that whatever way he reacted on that show is reactive abuse. She had probably been pushing his buttons for weeks before whatever it was aired just to get the reactions from him to point out to the world 'look i told you HE is crazy'. Narcs have a script and once you learn the pattern you can see it very easily and to me KP is 100% one.

Dassssy · 22/10/2026 21:20

BeardySchnauzer · 22/10/2026 21:09

It’s interesting because her older kids seem desperate to appease her. The stories they tell but then ‘she can’t help it’ ‘she loves us’. It’s sad. I am tempted to watch them on the new series of race across the world

It's SO sad the way they describe their childhood with her. At least she acknowledged in her documentry that she treated them badly. But I'm not sure how both kids then said " she's in a good place now" when that must have been filmed after she lost custody for the last time of the younger 2 children. So she hadn't changed at all. Drugs and men first. They are definitely still appeasing her. I mean it's probably easier for them to do that, theyre young and probably want as stress free a life as possible.

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 21:22

InterIgnis · 22/10/2026 21:18

Or there may be another cluster B personality disorder: ASPD. Due at least in part to gender bias amongst clinicians, a woman with ASPD is more likely to be diagnosed with BPD, and a man with BPD more likely to be diagnosed with ASPD.

Sex bias yes, this is exactly what happens, I have a lot of service users and have over the years who have EUPD, but their behaviour in men would be Anti Social PD (ASPD). I have never known a man be diagnosed EUPD and never known a woman be diagnosed with ASPD.

Many are being rediagnosed as ASD though.

Im on the fence about that.

Thefrocklady · 22/10/2026 21:31

CantBeArsedToThinkOfAName · 22/10/2026 19:53

I think it can be assumed the accuser's parent/s were within their circle as why would a 13 year old be involved with them/at their house and why would KP have a 13 year old's number? She wasn't a family member.

Why would KP say she'd make a child 'a little star' after quizzing her on whether her husband had 'come onto her'? WTAF!

The 'rape' was reported in 2021 when the accuser would have been around 18.

Her mother was apparently aware of it from her being 14?

Obviously there would be no physical evidence 5 years later and texts between KP and the accuser were mentioned in the trial but were there any messages between Hayler and the accuser which could have evidenced that what she said happened did? Can't see anything about that.

It honestly stinks to high heaven and it does make you wonder how it got to court at all. KP's involvement is pretty obvious I'd say.

Oops ,please ignore my comment

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Wrestling67 · 22/10/2026 21:42

I couldn’t give an arse if she’s diagnosed with anything, she was satan the minute she fucked up Harveys life

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 21:46

Katie has physically destroyed herself with surgery. The photo of her beside Princess on her big night was awful. She looks dreadful wearing a nappy and to turn up as a surprise catching Princess off guard.
I am not sure I think I read the dailymail invited Katie to the event to their VIP booth to surprise her daughter on the red carpet.
I think the older children are terrified of her dying. It is awful to say, she doesn’t look like she is far off death. When Princess talked about her DM in a dark place after Kieran left her, checking on her day and night.

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 21:54

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 21:46

Katie has physically destroyed herself with surgery. The photo of her beside Princess on her big night was awful. She looks dreadful wearing a nappy and to turn up as a surprise catching Princess off guard.
I am not sure I think I read the dailymail invited Katie to the event to their VIP booth to surprise her daughter on the red carpet.
I think the older children are terrified of her dying. It is awful to say, she doesn’t look like she is far off death. When Princess talked about her DM in a dark place after Kieran left her, checking on her day and night.

As @Genuineweddingone said, KP is their mum - the only one they will ever have - it’s likely they are both trauma bonded and hoping that one day she will be normal.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 22:06

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 21:54

As @Genuineweddingone said, KP is their mum - the only one they will ever have - it’s likely they are both trauma bonded and hoping that one day she will be normal.

They seem really close hopefully it gets them through. It is good to see Princess doing well for herself. She seems to have a big heart. It must be hard when the younger ones were separated.

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 22:10

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 22:06

They seem really close hopefully it gets them through. It is good to see Princess doing well for herself. She seems to have a big heart. It must be hard when the younger ones were separated.

They are fortunate to have stability with Peter Andre, Emily and their children.

BeardySchnauzer · 22/10/2026 22:17

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 22:10

They are fortunate to have stability with Peter Andre, Emily and their children.

They really are. Whatever else you could say about PA he made a very good choice with his second marriage!

kkloo · 22/10/2026 22:24

LivingForTheWinter · 22/10/2026 19:31

No more traumatised than her poor fucking kids.

It's not the prosecution's fault she's a dick.

It is their fault for putting her on the stand though, they have to think carefully about what witnesses they put forward in a case.

Arabelllllllla · 22/10/2026 22:27

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 21:46

Katie has physically destroyed herself with surgery. The photo of her beside Princess on her big night was awful. She looks dreadful wearing a nappy and to turn up as a surprise catching Princess off guard.
I am not sure I think I read the dailymail invited Katie to the event to their VIP booth to surprise her daughter on the red carpet.
I think the older children are terrified of her dying. It is awful to say, she doesn’t look like she is far off death. When Princess talked about her DM in a dark place after Kieran left her, checking on her day and night.

What big night? I've just googled it and can't find anything. Genuinely interested to see what kind of sh*show this was.

StormAusten · 22/10/2026 22:29

Let's not forget, Junior and Princess will have seen first-hand what Katie is like when she feels wronged. There was some video footage of her counting out wads of cash, talking to Princess in a most inappropriate way about how she'd got one over on Peter by declaring bankruptcy so he had to pay all the school fees. And she took Princess with her once when she was stalking an ex (Kris Boyson???), yelling stuff through his front window.
Whilst I feel it's unlikely she'd turn on them because she's still hoping to make money from their current high profile, I can see why they'd shy away from getting on her wrong side.
It's laughable that she seems to think she should be Princess's manager instead of the formidable Claire Powell, who has opened amazing doors for Princess. Katie would have had her on Only Fans before she'd blown out her 18th birthday candles.

StormAusten · 22/10/2026 22:31

Arabelllllllla · 22/10/2026 22:27

What big night? I've just googled it and can't find anything. Genuinely interested to see what kind of sh*show this was.

It was the recent NTAs, I think? Katie was plastered in inches of makeup to cover up what she said was surgery scars (but that the Blind Gossip sites alleged was something else). Princess looked gorgeous in a powder blue ball gown but Katie totally stole her thunder and got all the headlines.
Who would do that to their daughter?

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 22:32

Arabelllllllla · 22/10/2026 22:27

What big night? I've just googled it and can't find anything. Genuinely interested to see what kind of sh*show this was.

https://evoke.ie/2026/09/10/entertainment/princess-andre-katie-price-ntas

Princess later posted photos on her instagram, without Katie. Her front page media photo was photo bombed.

Princess Andre

Katie Price 'hijacked' Princess Andre's night at NTAs

Princess Andre left her famous mum out of a curated social media post following their red carpet appearance at the National Television Awards.

https://evoke.ie/2026/09/10/entertainment/princess-andre-katie-price-ntas

StormAusten · 22/10/2026 22:33

Princess looked close to tears in those photos with her mother. I bet Claire Powell was livid.

LivingForTheWinter · 22/10/2026 22:35

kkloo · 22/10/2026 22:24

It is their fault for putting her on the stand though, they have to think carefully about what witnesses they put forward in a case.

I get that you really want to plug this point.

The prosecution for a rape case is already on the back foot. They'd have taken anything that would have pointed towards his guilt. They obviously didn't see her as much as a car crash as she ended up being. Perhaps they are shit at their jobs. Perhaps they had nothing else. Perhaps she is just very manipulative.

But whichever way u cut it, KPs behaviour helped a not guilty verdict. And the only person to blame for her behaviour is her. She chose to use that stand in the way she did.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 22:35

StormAusten · 22/10/2026 22:31

It was the recent NTAs, I think? Katie was plastered in inches of makeup to cover up what she said was surgery scars (but that the Blind Gossip sites alleged was something else). Princess looked gorgeous in a powder blue ball gown but Katie totally stole her thunder and got all the headlines.
Who would do that to their daughter?

Edited

You’d be surprised. Amanda Holden springs to mind. I think it was her DD birthday or Victoria Beckham’s sext dance at the wedding.
They walk amongst us.
https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/21/amanda-holden-52-thrives-daughters-18th-birthday-party-20148621/

Amanda Holden, 52, takes centre stage at daughter Lexi’s 18th birthday party

She really got into the party spirit.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/21/amanda-holden-52-thrives-daughters-18th-birthday-party-20148621/

StormAusten · 22/10/2026 22:38

I still don't get why the DM are reporting that the defence team accused Katie of a pre-meditated attempt to bring down the trial. Why would she want to do that?

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