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Keiran Hayler has been found NOT GUILTY

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Thefrocklady · 22/10/2026 13:02

I think Katie Price might be next in the docks.
She seems hell bent on ruining her exes lives.

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StormAusten · 22/10/2026 19:19

@Sassylovesbooks "Kieran is no angel, he cheated on Katie."
Did you miss the part where it was reported she also cheated on him?

Spaniels4Eva · 22/10/2026 19:26

If KP was behind this, then I feel horribly sorry for Kieran and their shared children who have never been a priority to KP. This must have been such an ordeal.

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:30

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 19:16

I know someone who was initially diagnosed with BPD and subsequently received an autism diagnosis, whose behaviour has been extraordinarily destructive and unhinged. I would be very reluctant to attribute those behaviours to autism.

Are you talking about biploar disorder or borderline personality disorder?

Borderline Personality Disorder is renamed as EUPD

And the current theory is that when applied to women (its normally always women diagnosed with EUPD whereas men get diagnosed with ASPD), it may be misdiagnosed and its autism instead.

LivingForTheWinter · 22/10/2026 19:31

kkloo · 22/10/2026 19:10

I highly doubt she was very much different when she had made their statements to them, prehaps they thought they would have been able to control the direction better in court, but that's their own poor judgement, she's clearly a highly erratic and deeply traumatised woman.

No more traumatised than her poor fucking kids.

It's not the prosecution's fault she's a dick.

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 19:33

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:30

Are you talking about biploar disorder or borderline personality disorder?

Borderline Personality Disorder is renamed as EUPD

And the current theory is that when applied to women (its normally always women diagnosed with EUPD whereas men get diagnosed with ASPD), it may be misdiagnosed and its autism instead.

Borderline personality disorder. I understand the current thinking. I disagree.

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:34

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 19:33

Borderline personality disorder. I understand the current thinking. I disagree.

Yes, Im 50/50 on it to be fair but as you say, that is the current theory. It will change over time into something else anyway.

SpidersAreShitheads · 22/10/2026 19:45

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:30

Are you talking about biploar disorder or borderline personality disorder?

Borderline Personality Disorder is renamed as EUPD

And the current theory is that when applied to women (its normally always women diagnosed with EUPD whereas men get diagnosed with ASPD), it may be misdiagnosed and its autism instead.

I have to be honest, I struggle to see how KP's behaviours suggest autism.

I can see how some of her behaviours might suggest ADHD, and I'm aware that she's said that she was privately diagnosed wtih ADHD - but I take everything she says with a large pinch of salt.

I know lots of autistic women initially get misdiagnosed as EUPD but with KP, I honestly think this fits better than autism. Even the ADHD diagnosis makes me twitchy because every ADHD person I know is mortified about their ability to fuck things up, and tries really hard to keep their life on track, with varying degrees of success. I really don't think she gives a fuck.

I don't think any of this is about neurodivergence. But I appreciate I'm a bit sensitive about this, as I'm AuDHD as is my DD. It's like when Kanye decided he was autistic one week (since dropped and never mentioned again) just after he was doing his nasty Nazi stuff, that enraged me too.

helpwiththispleasee · 22/10/2026 19:47

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:02

Ive always thought she was autistic. Probably would have been diagnosed EUPD (or perhaps she has) but we know that its said that many women diagnosed with that may be ASD instead. Its the current theory anyway

It explains a lot of her behaviour but doesnt excuse it, she is horrendous and very male in many ways in terms of how she behaves. Complete disregard for the norms in society, disregard for the laws and other people's feelings and needs, solely nd only focused on herself, complete lack of self awareness, inability to change.

I’m autistic and nothing like Katie price ! Your comment is insulting to label all people with asd like that.

Hohofortherobbers · 22/10/2026 19:49

SpinandSing · 22/10/2026 14:25

Has anyone else seen that website about him? It's his name.com and set-up by someone who had a relationship with him post Kate and Michelle.

Wow! That's some reading 😳

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 19:51

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:02

Ive always thought she was autistic. Probably would have been diagnosed EUPD (or perhaps she has) but we know that its said that many women diagnosed with that may be ASD instead. Its the current theory anyway

It explains a lot of her behaviour but doesnt excuse it, she is horrendous and very male in many ways in terms of how she behaves. Complete disregard for the norms in society, disregard for the laws and other people's feelings and needs, solely nd only focused on herself, complete lack of self awareness, inability to change.

That’s very insulting to people with autism. She is an irresponsible selfish mare that her mother and sister spend years looking after her and excusing her crap.
She is a narc.
Even with Gareth Gates, she destroyed his career, she saw someone who was winning over the public and wanted part of it. She’s always had an exhibitionist. Surprising Princess on the red carpet recently dressed like a teenager.
I saw the Dubai potty photo before it disappeared. I saw her sprawled over men on a plane out of her face on drugs with five children at home.
I saw her run to Dubai to marry a fraud and plaster it all over the paper.
I have no doubt that she has a mental health issue. She craves the spotlight at any cost.
Her lifestyle environment is all about her. Not typical of autism at all.
Add on years of cocaine abuse and unnecessary surgery.

Crudd99 · 22/10/2026 19:51

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 17:04

In my experience of this type of person, they become so entrenched in their own narrative (lies), narcissism and obsession that they can’t keep up with what they’ve said and done previously. There’s also often a pattern (as seen in KP) of extremely volatile and dangerous reactions to perceived injustices. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if KP has borderline personality disorder - her behaviour very much fits - those who know, know!

Agree about the bpd. My sister had an affair, she'd been married a year to a genuinely lovely bloke. She didn't hide it she flaunted it. Husband found out and they split up. She wanted him back he wasn't sure. She spent the night with him and went round telling everyone he raped her. He hadnt. Luckily she had stayed over with another couple who's house he was staying at so they could prove there wasn't a rape. She admitted she was lying before she went to the police because no one believed her as she's always been a liar. She then accused him of domestic violence because he met someone else. She kept going to his house smashing windows and called the police and said he'd attacked her. Again luckily several neighbours had been watching and could tell the police the truth. She got arrested. She then had him arrested on historical domestic violence. She used to hit him and smash the house up and we all knew it. She was warned by the police that if she pursued the complaint, was found to be lying shed go to prison. She dropped the charges. She made her ex husband's life he'll.She dumped her children to pursue men all the time. She only wanted custody to hurt him because he wouldn't have her back. He got custody.

2nd husband she did the same thing accused him of domestic violence, phoned the police when they had a row. She would get pissed , start on him and hit him then get him arrested and drop the charges when she was sober. Police were wise to her as there were no marks on her but they have to believe the woman. He left her as he couldn't cope with her
3rd husband I've heard she's the same. I'm no contact as she's awful. Never under estimate the lengths and lies some people will go to because they believe they've been slighted or you don't do what they want. They're always the victim.

CantBeArsedToThinkOfAName · 22/10/2026 19:53

I think it can be assumed the accuser's parent/s were within their circle as why would a 13 year old be involved with them/at their house and why would KP have a 13 year old's number? She wasn't a family member.

Why would KP say she'd make a child 'a little star' after quizzing her on whether her husband had 'come onto her'? WTAF!

The 'rape' was reported in 2021 when the accuser would have been around 18.

Her mother was apparently aware of it from her being 14?

Obviously there would be no physical evidence 5 years later and texts between KP and the accuser were mentioned in the trial but were there any messages between Hayler and the accuser which could have evidenced that what she said happened did? Can't see anything about that.

It honestly stinks to high heaven and it does make you wonder how it got to court at all. KP's involvement is pretty obvious I'd say.

BeardySchnauzer · 22/10/2026 19:55

I think there were texts between KH and the victim that were suggestive of inappropriate behaviour but he claimed KP used his phone when he was passed out from drink/drugs

BeardySchnauzer · 22/10/2026 19:55

And I’m guessing after her performance o the stand the jury felt that was plausible

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:59

SpidersAreShitheads · 22/10/2026 19:45

I have to be honest, I struggle to see how KP's behaviours suggest autism.

I can see how some of her behaviours might suggest ADHD, and I'm aware that she's said that she was privately diagnosed wtih ADHD - but I take everything she says with a large pinch of salt.

I know lots of autistic women initially get misdiagnosed as EUPD but with KP, I honestly think this fits better than autism. Even the ADHD diagnosis makes me twitchy because every ADHD person I know is mortified about their ability to fuck things up, and tries really hard to keep their life on track, with varying degrees of success. I really don't think she gives a fuck.

I don't think any of this is about neurodivergence. But I appreciate I'm a bit sensitive about this, as I'm AuDHD as is my DD. It's like when Kanye decided he was autistic one week (since dropped and never mentioned again) just after he was doing his nasty Nazi stuff, that enraged me too.

I think she has a lot of traits that fit, but equally one of the difficulties with traits is the overlap (I work with a cohort of service users with high levels of ND, PD, trauma and MH issues all overlapping usually combined with substance abuse, difficult to unpick many things)

But she is fixated on surgery, self absorbed, lacking in empathy, seemingly unable to connect, she has always spoken somewhat oddly, finds it difficult to learn new behaviours, repeats mistakes/problematic behaviours, often very flat.

All those traits could be due to ND, they could also be due to other issues. Her wildly fluctuating twists and turns and also lies, attachment difficulties, violence, instability etc can also be EUPD (if one accepts those criteria).

CantBeArsedToThinkOfAName · 22/10/2026 20:00

Hohofortherobbers · 22/10/2026 19:49

Wow! That's some reading 😳

Makes you wonder about the motivation of someone to set up an anonymous website complaining her ex boyfriend, who's not a celebrity by any stretch so why would anyone care, is a cheater.

Using his name as webpage title so it comes up if anyone searches his name.

Wonder if it was set up as the court case come into the news?

SpidersAreShitheads · 22/10/2026 20:01

Hohofortherobbers · 22/10/2026 19:49

Wow! That's some reading 😳

I can't imagine why she's put up this website as it just reflects really badly on her! Describing KH as her "boyfriend" and saying "To clarify, this wasn’t just some sexual affair, it was a love story: two people who fell in love in far from ideal circumstances, but truly felt they could overcome all hurdles to get to the point of spending the rest of their lives together." when she was fully aware that she was just a bit on the side...

He's a sleaze but she's got the morals of an alley cat too. Just shows you that KH has a type - they're all as bad as each other.

helpwiththispleasee · 22/10/2026 20:13

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:59

I think she has a lot of traits that fit, but equally one of the difficulties with traits is the overlap (I work with a cohort of service users with high levels of ND, PD, trauma and MH issues all overlapping usually combined with substance abuse, difficult to unpick many things)

But she is fixated on surgery, self absorbed, lacking in empathy, seemingly unable to connect, she has always spoken somewhat oddly, finds it difficult to learn new behaviours, repeats mistakes/problematic behaviours, often very flat.

All those traits could be due to ND, they could also be due to other issues. Her wildly fluctuating twists and turns and also lies, attachment difficulties, violence, instability etc can also be EUPD (if one accepts those criteria).

They also fit with being a massive narc. Myself and another have said you’ve been really insulting to people who are actually autistic. I’m not self absorbed and lacking empathy ! That’s a myth anyway.

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 20:15

Crudd99 · 22/10/2026 19:51

Agree about the bpd. My sister had an affair, she'd been married a year to a genuinely lovely bloke. She didn't hide it she flaunted it. Husband found out and they split up. She wanted him back he wasn't sure. She spent the night with him and went round telling everyone he raped her. He hadnt. Luckily she had stayed over with another couple who's house he was staying at so they could prove there wasn't a rape. She admitted she was lying before she went to the police because no one believed her as she's always been a liar. She then accused him of domestic violence because he met someone else. She kept going to his house smashing windows and called the police and said he'd attacked her. Again luckily several neighbours had been watching and could tell the police the truth. She got arrested. She then had him arrested on historical domestic violence. She used to hit him and smash the house up and we all knew it. She was warned by the police that if she pursued the complaint, was found to be lying shed go to prison. She dropped the charges. She made her ex husband's life he'll.She dumped her children to pursue men all the time. She only wanted custody to hurt him because he wouldn't have her back. He got custody.

2nd husband she did the same thing accused him of domestic violence, phoned the police when they had a row. She would get pissed , start on him and hit him then get him arrested and drop the charges when she was sober. Police were wise to her as there were no marks on her but they have to believe the woman. He left her as he couldn't cope with her
3rd husband I've heard she's the same. I'm no contact as she's awful. Never under estimate the lengths and lies some people will go to because they believe they've been slighted or you don't do what they want. They're always the victim.

Yep, those diagnosed with BPD have a very, very different and unique presentation to those with autism, in my experience.

Crudd99 · 22/10/2026 20:19

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 20:15

Yep, those diagnosed with BPD have a very, very different and unique presentation to those with autism, in my experience.

I agree.

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 20:23

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 20:15

Yep, those diagnosed with BPD have a very, very different and unique presentation to those with autism, in my experience.

They sometimes do and sometimes dont, but as we know there is a push to redefine clients who have a EUPD diagnosis as having ASD in lots of cases.

ASD is not just one thing or one presentation, some people have more of a particular trait and are troubled by those traits more than others.

Im not quite sure why someone would be offended by the thought she has ASD, when I havent seen people take offence at the idea she might have BPD/EUPD or MH issues. Its not insulting to anyone to consider the various issues that might be wrong with her.

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 20:32

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 20:23

They sometimes do and sometimes dont, but as we know there is a push to redefine clients who have a EUPD diagnosis as having ASD in lots of cases.

ASD is not just one thing or one presentation, some people have more of a particular trait and are troubled by those traits more than others.

Im not quite sure why someone would be offended by the thought she has ASD, when I havent seen people take offence at the idea she might have BPD/EUPD or MH issues. Its not insulting to anyone to consider the various issues that might be wrong with her.

All I can say is that I have encountered hundreds of autistic women throughout both my personal and professional life. I have also experienced, first hand, the profoundly damaging consequences of another individual’s extreme and destructive behaviour, someone who has been diagnosed with BPD.

Of all the women I have encountered, it is this individual alone whose behaviour has been characterised by such extreme volatility, aggression and destructiveness.

InMy40sEra · 22/10/2026 20:39

She seemed so “normal” when she was married to PA, likeable, actually.

Silverbirchleaf · 22/10/2026 20:42

InMy40sEra · 22/10/2026 20:39

She seemed so “normal” when she was married to PA, likeable, actually.

I agree. She seem to mature from ‘Jordan the model’ to ‘Katie Price the business woman and mum’.