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Keiran Hayler has been found NOT GUILTY

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Thefrocklady · 22/10/2026 13:02

I think Katie Price might be next in the docks.
She seems hell bent on ruining her exes lives.

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SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · 22/10/2026 18:09

Livelovebehappy · 22/10/2026 15:39

The joint two DCs of he and Katie actually live with Katie full time. Apparently she can’t share pictures or other info of them on social media as a condition of her having custody.

No they do not

Unsureworkwhattodo · 22/10/2026 18:14

Pretty KP was called out in court by the victim saying KP had messaged her. She informed KP and she ignored her. So not such how she came blamed for this came against him. Also these kind of cases are hard to get to court so there would of been significant evidence for it to be there

LivingForTheWinter · 22/10/2026 18:16

kkloo · 22/10/2026 17:57

It isn't actually clear and doesn't really explain.
Sounds like it could just have been KP being KP.

That's the point tho isn't it?

Bubbaliciousss · 22/10/2026 18:21

StormAusten · 22/10/2026 17:04

Well, if, IF the verdict is wrong (in your opinion), Katie Price is largely responsible for de-railing the prosecution with her appalling behaviour in court.
And this sets back rape cases even further.

What exactly was her behaviour in court? I can't seem to find this info.

Samysungy · 22/10/2026 18:27

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 22/10/2026 15:02

Not speaking Re the accused here... But generally....

ANY rape /sexual abuse allegation is NOT necessarily a false allegation, just because a court hasn't found them guilty. It means legally they're not guilty, but it also means that the jury was unable to convict 'beyond reasonable doubt' .

As many other people have said on other threads, most of the time there are zero witnesses to sexual assault. It's very much a case of one person saying, "He did this," and another person saying, "I didn't."

There's rarely any evidence unless it's immediately post hoc and there's medical evidence. Any bruising /dna the defence will says that this woman liked to have rough sex..... It's a well worn track....

Rape usually has a witness and it also is a crime where most victims have evidence too. It has a higher charging point than all other crimes. This means there has to be more evidence than other crimes in order for the person to be charged. All other crimes have a lower charging point.

For example. For my rape my rapist confessed and there was a witness. He was not charged.

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 18:30

Unsureworkwhattodo · 22/10/2026 18:14

Pretty KP was called out in court by the victim saying KP had messaged her. She informed KP and she ignored her. So not such how she came blamed for this came against him. Also these kind of cases are hard to get to court so there would of been significant evidence for it to be there

They are hard to get to court because complainants often withdraw from the prosecution. The CPS can - and do - charge solely on the basis of an ABE interview with the alleged victim. One of the reasons why the conviction rate once a SA / rape trial goes to court is roughly 50% is because often it is she said vs he said.

Sassylovesbooks · 22/10/2026 18:30

I'd say from reading the media that Katie has been deemed a 'dangerous witness', who is someone who will say anything against the accused for revenge. She has been pulled up by the Judge, who basically asked her to answer the questions directed to her, not to give her opinion or make additional accusations.

The Jury obviously can't convicted on anything other than 'beyond reasonable doubt'. They can't be sure he did rape the girl or not, so therefore have to give a 'not guilty' verdict. Katie actually hampered the trial, and has likely caused the Jury to doubt his guilt.

Kieran is no angel, he cheated on Katie. There's a big difference between cheating on your wife, and raping a 13 year old. He can be an arsehole of a partner but that doesn't make him a peado or a rapist.

zanahoria · 22/10/2026 18:30

AgeingMillennial · 22/10/2026 14:18

Gosh.

I think sometimes people forget having a child with special needs and being treated badly by some men, doesn’t make you an inherently good person.

She’s always been a shady person IMO but the last 5 or so years this has really ramped up. She’s like poison.

Thinking of her poor kids who are always the main victims of her nonsense.

and the dogs

if any of them are still alive

kkloo · 22/10/2026 18:37

LivingForTheWinter · 22/10/2026 18:16

That's the point tho isn't it?

It's up to the prosecution to decide which witness will help or hinder their case, they were the ones who put her on the stand, so if it was her evidence that fucked the case then the blame lies with the prosecution for making that decision in the first place.

I'm not sure why anyone would expect her to be any different on the stand, so I'm not sure why it is her who is blamed for it.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 22/10/2026 18:44

Samysungy · 22/10/2026 18:27

Rape usually has a witness and it also is a crime where most victims have evidence too. It has a higher charging point than all other crimes. This means there has to be more evidence than other crimes in order for the person to be charged. All other crimes have a lower charging point.

For example. For my rape my rapist confessed and there was a witness. He was not charged.

How does rape 'usually' have a witness??

Not in my (pretty extensive) experience of working with victims...

zanahoria · 22/10/2026 18:46

Sassylovesbooks · 22/10/2026 18:30

I'd say from reading the media that Katie has been deemed a 'dangerous witness', who is someone who will say anything against the accused for revenge. She has been pulled up by the Judge, who basically asked her to answer the questions directed to her, not to give her opinion or make additional accusations.

The Jury obviously can't convicted on anything other than 'beyond reasonable doubt'. They can't be sure he did rape the girl or not, so therefore have to give a 'not guilty' verdict. Katie actually hampered the trial, and has likely caused the Jury to doubt his guilt.

Kieran is no angel, he cheated on Katie. There's a big difference between cheating on your wife, and raping a 13 year old. He can be an arsehole of a partner but that doesn't make him a peado or a rapist.

Judge Mark van der Zwart described Price as "what barristers of a previous generation would have called a dangerous witness"

LivingForTheWinter · 22/10/2026 18:49

kkloo · 22/10/2026 18:37

It's up to the prosecution to decide which witness will help or hinder their case, they were the ones who put her on the stand, so if it was her evidence that fucked the case then the blame lies with the prosecution for making that decision in the first place.

I'm not sure why anyone would expect her to be any different on the stand, so I'm not sure why it is her who is blamed for it.

Things clearly didn't go to plan, hence the prosecution being forced to have to say she should be largely ignored.

She's obviously a law unto herself.

Arabelllllllla · 22/10/2026 18:51

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 16:27

This isn’t quite true. An ABE interview can be enough ‘evidence’ for an allegation of this nature to be charge aka she said vs he said.

Wait a minute, I said "significant evidence" not "physical evidence". An interview in itself could be significant enough to charge someone in itself, that is not something I've disputed. I understand it could be.

In most instances where someone reports SA or rape they are interviewed, and most of those reports don't make it to court (or even to someone being charged). So if the CPS decide to prosecute based on an interview alone there must be significant evidence within it.

SpidersAreShitheads · 22/10/2026 18:56

I'm no fan of any pf the of the people that's gotten involved in the circus surrounding Katie Price over the years. And I just looked at that website that a PP linked, and the woman who's behind that is pretty fucking awful too. It's just an affair partner of KH with an axe to grind because she didn't get what she wanted. Seedy, the lot of them.

I haven't seen the judge's summing up and I don't know a lot about the evidence so I have no idea how shocking KH's conduct was. I would echo a PP about assuming someone is innocent just because they haven't been convicted by the court. Not meeting the threshold for conviction doesn't mean none of it was true.

I would be interested in hearing what the judge has to say. It sounds as if some of the court shenanigans won't ever be reported because what KP said was so outrageous. It's interesting that the judge refused to remove the jury as requested because he believed that KP would simply do the same to the next jury!

KH no doubt is a shitty partner. Awful. But he seems to have implied in his evidence that KP was the one grooming the child. And she's admitted to accessing his phone while he was drunk/asleep. I feel uncomfortable about a grown man befriending a 13 yr old even if "nothing happened". But that doesn't make him guilty of rape. Between his sleaze and KP's outrageous lies, I doubt we'll ever know what truly happened - but either way a young teen was taken advantage of. Awful.

He stressed during the trial that he was “attracted to older women” and accepted having affairs with three older women during his marriage with Ms Price.

During the trial, prosecutor Ryan Richter had put to Mr Hayler: “Your feud with Katie Price is not what this case is about, is it?”
He replied: “It is.”
Mr Richter went on: “This case is about you having raped a girl, isn’t it?”
Mr Hayler said: “I have not.”

During his evidence, the personal trainer told jurors he thought Ms Price was “coaching” the teenage girl after discovering messages she sent to her.
He took pictures of messages on Ms Price’s phone when they were together in which she talks to the girl about Hayler fancying her, adding: “I will make you a little star.”
Ms Price had told the trial the phrase was a “figure of speech” but Mr Hayler said it was a “very strange comment to make”.
He said: “Everyone can interpret it how they want, it’s very pushy.
“I thought she was coaching her into (saying) something she shouldn’t.”

Mr Hayler’s former partner, Michelle Pentecost, also gave evidence to the trial as a defence witness, telling the court about “numerous threats” they would receive from Ms Price during their seven-year relationship.
The 44-year-old told jurors: “All the time she’ll be throwing out threats, ‘I’m going to make everyone think you’re a paedo’.”

Elsewhere, it can now be reported that Ms Price’s first day of evidence during the trial led to Mr Hayler’s defence team calling for the jury to be discharged, accusing her of a “premeditated attempt to bring down this trial”.

In a legal application to the judge, barrister Arlette Piercy argued that evidence given by Ms Price resulted in an “overwhelming tsunami of prejudice to us which we are simply unable to deal with”.

Of Ms Price’s evidence, some of which cannot be reported for legal reasons, the lawyer said: “She then went on a deliberate, malicious and in my submission, premeditated attempt to bring down this trial.”

She added that “the significance of it was written all over the jury’s faces”.
Prosecutor Mr Richter disputed the argument and instead suggested it was from the celebrity witness “having lost control”.

Judge Mark van der Zwart dismissed the legal bid and instead later gave the jury a warning that what she said was “not correct and you must disregard it”.
In his ruling, the judge described Ms Price as “what barristers of a previous generation would have called a dangerous witness” with a personal agenda in proceedings and who was “liable to say something prejudicial given half a chance.”

“Discharging this jury was unlikely to prevent the same situation arising again at a re-trial,” he said.

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:02

Robogob · 22/10/2026 17:29

She’s a sociopath. Even her voice is a detached, emotionally barren monotone. She doesn’t have any normal emotions or reactions. Look at all the dead pets and squalid houses.

She was naturally very beautiful. She’s destroyed that. I wonder why? What’s that all about?

Ive always thought she was autistic. Probably would have been diagnosed EUPD (or perhaps she has) but we know that its said that many women diagnosed with that may be ASD instead. Its the current theory anyway

It explains a lot of her behaviour but doesnt excuse it, she is horrendous and very male in many ways in terms of how she behaves. Complete disregard for the norms in society, disregard for the laws and other people's feelings and needs, solely nd only focused on herself, complete lack of self awareness, inability to change.

SpidersAreShitheads · 22/10/2026 19:03

Sorry about the weird formatting ^^ - I haven't bolded for emphasis!! I tried to copy from a news site and it's done all kinds of strange things with italics and bold!

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:06

Strawberrydelight78 · 22/10/2026 17:30

His family won’t be allowed to have them while he was under investigation. Because there’s a risk he could have unsupervised contact with them.

That isnt true at all, children are very often placed with family if they're able to safeguard them from a suspect who is still under investigation. Children dont come into care if they have family options. (or they can be 'in care' but with family as kinship carers)

JulietteRoche · 22/10/2026 19:07

I absolutely can't stand Katie, but it doesn't follow that she was to blame for him being charged, and found Not Guilty doesn't actually mean he didn't violate that girl. Again, I'm not defending her at all, she is a terrible person and mother. I'm just saying that two things can be true simultaneously.

kkloo · 22/10/2026 19:10

LivingForTheWinter · 22/10/2026 18:49

Things clearly didn't go to plan, hence the prosecution being forced to have to say she should be largely ignored.

She's obviously a law unto herself.

I highly doubt she was very much different when she had made their statements to them, prehaps they thought they would have been able to control the direction better in court, but that's their own poor judgement, she's clearly a highly erratic and deeply traumatised woman.

zanahoria · 22/10/2026 19:12

JulietteRoche · 22/10/2026 19:07

I absolutely can't stand Katie, but it doesn't follow that she was to blame for him being charged, and found Not Guilty doesn't actually mean he didn't violate that girl. Again, I'm not defending her at all, she is a terrible person and mother. I'm just saying that two things can be true simultaneously.

She can be blamed for trying to turn this trial into a farce

JulietteRoche · 22/10/2026 19:14

zanahoria · 22/10/2026 19:12

She can be blamed for trying to turn this trial into a farce

Oh, absolutely she can. I'm not defending her in the least.

Nearly50omg · 22/10/2026 19:15

EmeraldShamrock000 · 22/10/2026 16:34

She could have.
The attacks happened in 2016.
They separated in 2018, she was devastated he left her. Why would she be so upset if she knew he had raped a child.

Edited

You realise you can be charged with the crap and lies you are making up about someone you don’t even know and posting online?

Trayloop · 22/10/2026 19:16

likelysuspect · 22/10/2026 19:02

Ive always thought she was autistic. Probably would have been diagnosed EUPD (or perhaps she has) but we know that its said that many women diagnosed with that may be ASD instead. Its the current theory anyway

It explains a lot of her behaviour but doesnt excuse it, she is horrendous and very male in many ways in terms of how she behaves. Complete disregard for the norms in society, disregard for the laws and other people's feelings and needs, solely nd only focused on herself, complete lack of self awareness, inability to change.

I know someone who was initially diagnosed with BPD and subsequently received an autism diagnosis, whose behaviour has been extraordinarily destructive and unhinged. I would be very reluctant to attribute those behaviours to autism.

BeardySchnauzer · 22/10/2026 19:16

I’m surprised that website is still up tbh

StormAusten · 22/10/2026 19:18

BeardySchnauzer · 22/10/2026 19:16

I’m surprised that website is still up tbh

MNHQ seem to think it was fine to link to it though.

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