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Crisis What Crisis? The One You Start To Wish You'd Stockpiled Like Your Crazy Friend? Continuation thread (3)

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RedToothBrush · 22/10/2026 10:05

Previous threads
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5576816-aibu-to-think-my-friend-is-overdoing-emergency-stockpiling?page=1
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5585259-crisis-what-crisis-is-my-friend-over-doing-the-stockpiling-and-am-i-too-continuation-thread-2?page=1

Continuation of the AIBU to think my friend is overdoing emergency stockpiling thread for discussion about the government advice to stockpile for an imminent emergency and what the heck that emergency might actually be.

Spoiler: it's more of a perfect storm of lots of factors coming together to potentially form one great clusterfuck from economic woes, global energy shortages (mainly diesel), potential food shortages, war and madmen to crazy weather patterns rather than a clear identifiable singular thread.
This is a practical thread and a bit of a handhold thread to make sense of events and how they may affect you. This is not an end of the world thread.

Remember an emergency can range from a temporary unexpected event to a much longer crisis but the underlying principles generally stay the same.

This is the official government information and advice, if you want further details on what the actual recommendations are:
https://prepare.campaign.gov.uk/get-prepared-for-emergencies/

ROUGH STATUS REPORT (as of 9am 22nd Oct - please note this isn't fully comprehensive, and is moving FAST)
Civil Unrest reported in:
France, Italy, Greece, Belgium, Albania, Indonesia - multi reasons, but largely due to economic pressures and the cost of living
Spain has had problems but these have temporarily stopped, probably due to significant weather related issues due to the Dana effect
More protests planned for this coming weekend
High Alert in the Middle East:
Netanyahu now committed to regime change in Iran, as he believes they are developing a nuke.
The US has pulled all Embassy Staff from Saudi Arabia and is hoping no one notices that they've ordered personal and families across the Gulf home and then seem to have lied that they have.
The Emir of Qatar has stated at their equivalent of the annual King's Speech at the Opening of Parliament that war was coming and to prepare for the worst scenarios. US pulling planes out of Qatar.
The Egyptian PM has warned the country of severe crisis ahead - given the nature of the country this is related to their alliance with Saudi Arabia and their reliance on the Suez Canal which the Yemeni rebels now control access to and their exposure to famine
Iran is saying if there is another attack, the gloves are off and they'll try and wipe out the middle east oil industry as they go down, as well as hitting critical civilian infrastructure.
Much movement / noise is similar to run up to the first US attacks this year. Debate over whether the attack will come before the Israeli Election or the US Midterms - possibly within 72hours - latest mood music suggests potentially this weekend. Seems to be shifting to a when not if.
Israel election: 27th Oct
Prices and Shortages:
Diesel needs no real reminder - we need it for haulage, mass transportation and farming, we are screwed without it. Fuel Emergency declarations in West Virgina, Kentucky, Michigan, Maryland, Arizona, Nebraska and Texas - typically allowing limited dyed diesel use for ag or commercial vehicles. Illinois and Missouri have also allowed by not under emergency orders. Less reported is the fertiliser shortage and knock on effect, poor yields this year and the effect of El Nino on next years, sulphur export bans and the blockade on Ukrainian and Russian wheat exports which are particularly crucial in feeding North Africa and the Middle East. This is liable to have significant impact on the UK with 6% rises in food already expected next year (and there's every reason to believe this will be higher especially with civil unrest all over the place). Reports of aviation fuel running low in some parts of Europe with emergency supplies (which can't last forever) being used.
El Nino:
See above about farming and also think of disasters - like the ones Spain is facing with flooding. Storm Austin is incoming and there is a weather warning for the South of England with power outages and flooding possible today/tomorrow.
The Internet:
PHP is 70% of the internet. Its got compromised so it can pretty much all be hacked. This is VERY BAD (in capital letters). Many websites offline whilst this is sorted including multiple government ones around the world.
Just AI generally - everything from putting everyone out of work to just hacking and killing us all. No Biggie.
Trump and the Mid Terms:
Trump is firmly losing his marbles. He's defected to Russia, can't stop rambling about men's arses, is waving at non-existent people, his team are known to be considering ways to impose martial law, he's getting heckled at Trump rallies by his own supporters, 83% of all voters think the biggest problem in the US now isn't the cost of living crisis but government corruption. He's being called a traitor by some of his fellow Reds. Mid Terms look a disaster and Trump probably won't accept them. He's reversing bills that Congress passed weeks ago by executive order.
Mid-Terms: 3rd Nov
Ukraine and Russia:
Ukraine facing massive problems still cos Elon has got the ump. Starlink isn't working at face enough speeds. They've bombed a shedload of Data Centres in Russia. This has killed off the Russian Internet and many Trump/Musk supporters in the process (one way or another) which screws up Twitter (and its value) for them. Ukraine is getting blamed for diesel shortages cos they refuse to stop hitting Russian refineries even though it has no choice now its been cut off by the US. Zelenskyy now says Trump isn't an ally. Trump wants Zelensky gone and thinks Putin is being reasonable and Ukraine doesn't want peace. Germany states it would have activated Art5 if the confirmed Russian sabotage attack on Liepzig had been successful.
Russia is apparently planning to step up its sabotage campaign in Europe after having successfully sunk a few boats in EU waters (Romania / Bulgaria - these sinkings have been in both international waters off the coast AND within their official territorial waters).
Economy:
Lots of debt. Much concern over the implications of this particularly with regards to AI and state debt in the US, UK, France and Japan (but not restricted to). Much money put into gold by China. Background of this bad given the approach of potentially multiple crisis.
France Moody's credit review: Due tomorrow 23rd Oct - expected to be not good especially in the current political climate in France
UK Budget: 28th October

They are all interconnected and one or many could tip us into abject chaos. Or not. The risks here are sky high. Of what? Take your pick.

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CrispyK · Yesterday 20:58

They can’t just magic up more beans and tomatoes or whatever it is… there isn’t an infinite supply to match whatever the demand happens to be.

Lalgarh · Yesterday 21:08

Isn't FM radio being phased out? I'm hoping they stall on that plan rather than ploughing on regardless with making everything digital

MrsPernicious · Yesterday 21:27

Judging by the loo roll offers and plentiful displays, there has been loads of coordination between shops, manufactures and no doubt Government.

Holeymoley28 · Yesterday 21:38

Work seems to be stockpiling rat poison 👀👀

EasternStandard · Yesterday 21:38

There was a thread where the op was mocked for saying get ready for panic buying. She was a few weeks early.

MrsPernicious · Yesterday 21:57

Lidl, Aldi, Morrisons, Asda, Waitrose and B&M seem to have been in on the shady scheme, just from observations.
Somewhere there was a retail chain that had 30 branches in total oblivion but on the whole this campaign has been building momentum for a couple of months. If one of the big players missed, they need to get better management.

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 22:14

MrsPernicious · Yesterday 21:57

Lidl, Aldi, Morrisons, Asda, Waitrose and B&M seem to have been in on the shady scheme, just from observations.
Somewhere there was a retail chain that had 30 branches in total oblivion but on the whole this campaign has been building momentum for a couple of months. If one of the big players missed, they need to get better management.

This for me.

This has been going on for at least six weeks. Lidl put a label on it's tinned tomatoes restricting sales to 12 over three weeks ago! And that was at least three or four weeks after people on MN started to look around and go 'huh What's going on here?'.

I don't think it's a surprise that there's panic buying going on this week. I think this week in particular was highly predictable due to Geopolitics.

I don't have access to there sales figures but quite honestly I think you could have spotted the up tick at least a month ago and if you are politically aware had a very good punt that this week there's be some shortages. It isn't rocket science.

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 22:52

FindingMeno · Yesterday 16:13

I think if anything ramps up there's going to be a lot of people who are going to have the shock of their lives.
And I can't say I feel in the slightest bit sympathetic if they've had the opportunity to do something, but won't.
I know that makes me a bit hard, but so be it.

The UK FCO has updated security alerts overnight for
Israel, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, UAE, Qatar, Jordan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Syria, Yemen and Palestine

It's a gentle step up in tone but it is a new review and a step up. I think we've gone from potential to possible.

British nationals in, or planning to travel through, the Middle East should be prepared for possible flight cancellations, airspace closures, and travel disruptions.

In terms of people getting the shock of their lives, there was a thread last week from a woman in Dubai who was utterly clueless and thought it would impact her much and the media was exaggerating the impact on the ground. I told her straight up if it did kick off it wouldn't be like last time - the Emir of Qatar's national speech and Iranian threats to no longer keep targets military and the Saudi airports being targeted are fairly large and serious hints.

Anyway

Israel elections. Things seem not to have gone the way of polling. Exit polls suggest Netanyahu's party got the most votes with the other bloke second. But neither has enough. So much scrambling to be done and there's the prospect of further elections as a possibility as no one can reach the magic number of 61. The biggest winner was the Arab parties with their best ever results which no one expected.

This does now put Netanyahu in a position where he is freer to resume strikes and that's why the FCO advice has changed.

I note SkyNews defence correspondent is reporting that three out our four nuclear subs are out which is unusual. We have not done this in five years.

Reuters
BREAKING: A hacker is attempting to breach the US Federal Election Commission's systems and that agency has had to 'temporarily shut down' its web-facing services as a result, according to an email seen by Reuters

https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-16242829/ex-fbi-dan-bongino-emergency-warning-usa.html
Ex-FBI boss tells Americans to take warnings to stock seriously.

The headline is 'prepare for the worst'. And he says
'Get your stuff today. Please. Do it for your family,' Bongino added.

This isn't going to help UK supermarkets.

Bolsonaro escaped to the US after all. It seems to back up that he was actively being supported by the Trump administration who were possibly interfering.

Ex-FBI boss tells Americans to take warnings to stock up seriously

The former number two agent at the FBI has sent a dire message to Americans after the Pentagon's secret military plans were revealed.

https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-16242829/ex-fbi-dan-bongino-emergency-warning-usa.html

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FindingMeno · Yesterday 23:01

@RedToothBrush much appreciated update as always.

MrsPernicious · Yesterday 23:14

Bongino may be bonkers.

His evidence is ; "There have been some warnings put out by the UK government and elsewhere about 30 days of preparedness and having food ready and power," Bongino began

Can he not tell the difference between 3 and 30 days. Plus who the heck is going to attack mainland US?

British households have responded to government calls to stock up on non-perishable goods. Reuters

Beans, water and radios sell out after UK’s stockpile warning | The National

Households react to government message to be more prepared for emergencies

https://www.thenationalnews.com/news/uk/2026/10/27/beans-water-and-radios-sell-out-after-uks-stockpile-warning/

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 23:14

MrsPernicious · Yesterday 23:14

Bongino may be bonkers.

His evidence is ; "There have been some warnings put out by the UK government and elsewhere about 30 days of preparedness and having food ready and power," Bongino began

Can he not tell the difference between 3 and 30 days. Plus who the heck is going to attack mainland US?

The bigger risk is about the lights going out... Not attacks.

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MrsPernicious · Yesterday 23:25

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 23:14

The bigger risk is about the lights going out... Not attacks.

According to Bongino the risk is a vegan in Texas opening all US borders and a Muslim (therefore terrorist supporter) being potentially elected in Michigan.

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